British House of Commons votes today on equal marriage

Fingers and toes all crossed, it looks like even the Tory troglodytes can’t derail this one. The first reading looks likely to pass.

And the Tory right have warned that it could tear apart the Tory party and damage their results at the next general election. So, a win win all round :smiley:

All my fingers are crossed. Come on, let’s move out of the dark ages!

You’re a few years late to the party.

So we’ll just not bother then as we’ve lost the ‘race’?

I think this is a day for optimism, not one-upmanship.

Do you know what time they vote? I can’t seem to find it.

(I wanna know how much longer I’ve got to keep my fingers crossed, they’re going numb)

I think it’s in the evening. So we’ve got a whole day of angry evangelicals phoning up radio shows to suffer through.

I only maintain my composure by knowing that it will pass.

Ah thanks. And I found this: “Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill:Second Reading (may continue until 7.00 pm).”

[nitpick]This is actually Second Reading [/nitpick] - First Reading is always a courtesy and a Bill is never shot down at that point.

I see this getting through today but struggle to see this going through the Lords.

Shouldn’t all you people be publicly vocal about this right now? I mean, sitting here with your fingers crossed is all right and well, but I would hate it the only ones phoning up radio shows the angry evangelicals.

It’s a free vote, and there is a solid majority in the Commons for “Yes”, albeit there are around 180 Conservative MPs who will vote “No”. But frankly it’s a done deal, and media outlets are just giving the vocal minority a voice. In a years time it will be just a commonplace fact of life.

What Greenback says. The Commons are mostly in favour but I can foresee some heel-dragging in the Lords. However their Lordships have undergone a lot of change lately and I think even there it will eventually pass.

I think the Lords will wave this through, not that they can stop it anyway. Nobody influential in that chamber is going hang themselves on an issue that has such cross-party support in the Commons.

Hurrah! I suspect it’ll find support with the vast majority of the population.

No worries, there has been plenty of vocalness :wink: I know loads and loads of people have contacted their MPs about it. Lots of my friends put copies of their letters & the reply on facebook. But that work is done now. Now we wait.

Well, the bishops will have a strop but that’s to be expected. Between the bishops in the Lords and the Catholics in Scotland, the clergy railing against the flood tide of public opinion are proving themselves a right bunch of Cnuts.

At least Cnut knowingly demonstrated the limits of his authority. It does get a bit tiresome when the local Scots media seek out the opinion of Cardinal O’Brien on, well, anything. Still, time and tide are against his stupid moron opinions.

From 5Live: “Marriage is such an important component of what it means to be a Conservative” - says a dissenter.

The presenter, Richard Bacon “So why are you wanting to restrict it?”

Another dissenter: “The importance of marriage is that is the gold standard for procreation”

Bacon: “What do you think of two 70-year-olds getting married?”

Dissenter: “Errr, God, God, God, ummmm errrr”

‘Gold Standard for procreation’? What does that even MEAN?

Best I’ve read today ‘What will stop a man marrying his son to avoid inheritance tax’.

(Erm, mate, they could just have a civil partnership. Or maybe we shouldn’t tell them that one).