Sure. I just think it’s funny. He’s hanging out on my bumper next to the Budda Fish and fomerly the Hindu fish. He was the coolest of all, I’m guessing that why he was stolen from my bumper.
So many Hindus, so little hamburgers…
Sure. I just think it’s funny. He’s hanging out on my bumper next to the Budda Fish and fomerly the Hindu fish. He was the coolest of all, I’m guessing that why he was stolen from my bumper.
So many Hindus, so little hamburgers…
I didn’t find the forgiven bumpersticker offensive, but I found it scary.
I find the lions one neither offensive nor scary because the reference is too hyperbolic. It isn’t like lynching or gas chambers which are recent and very real, and which were the victimization of a persecuted minority.
Christians today are the majority, and hardly persecuted. Lions aren’t a method of execution much in vogue. And my sense of the early persecution of Christians was that a lot of it had to do with them being just really annoying.
I would also not be bothered by a hypothetical bumpersticker like
“So many heretics, so few Grand Inquisitors.”
Remember: Most people think insults about groups are funny as long as it’s not about their group.
While reading this thread, I found myself wanting a bumper sticker saying “So many Christians. So few Madonnas.”
I’m pretty much an Atheist/Agnostic, and I don’t find it particularly offensive. I find it quite humorous actually. I don’t find “Christians Aren’t Perfect - Just Forgiven” offensive either.
I would say that an anti-Christian bumpersticker holder would be more likely to get his car keyed or be the victim of road rage than a pro-Christian bumpersticker holder. JMO
What bothers me about it is the conflation of “Christian” and (presumably) the idea of “Raving Lunatic Hate-Filled Fundamentalist”. It propogates the idea that all Christians are like that, which…UGH.
That’s really the only part I’m offended by, the use of the word “Christian” to denote “Psychotic Foamer-at-the-Mouth.”
No, the crusades were to kill Muslims. The church cares much less about godless heathens than it does about people who worship a god that isn’t their own.
Forgot for a moment that both religions actually worship the SAME God. Just goes to show you how bent out of shape they got when someone worshipped God in a different way.
I enjoy many of the bumper stickers cited in the OP. But I consider myself a Christian. I lost my “'N Chips” fish, but I still have “I’m for the Separation of Church and HATE” showing.
The lions one? Yeah, I’d find it funny, but also believe some Christians would find it a little offensive. The other bumper stickers seemed to be complaining about specific aspects of Christianity that some Christians emphasize. They express sentiments that many Christians probably would themselves embrace.
But the “Lions” sticker suggests they’re all bad seed. And like Tracy Lord said, it suggests the car owner believes that ALL Christians are of the foaming-at-the-mouth stripe.
I think you’ll find the sticking point is that whole Jesus Christ thing.
Moreso that wacky Muhammed character, as IIRC Islam does believe Jesus of Nazareth to be a prophet of Allah. (Just not, you know, the prophet.)
Hey, I’m a Christian Sunday school teacher and part-time youth worker, and I’m doing my best to piss off the Religious Right too.
Would christians find a “Thank God I’m an Atheist” sticker offensive ?
I considered putting one… to counter the “Thank God I’m catholic” stickers that are common over here. Like most dopers here I thought the integrity of my car was more important.
I find it sad that a Christian putting a sticker seems more "acceptable". Some are much more on your face than christian fish... some are big "jesus is king" or "Jesus is faitful", "I pay 10% to my church" etc....
This morning I saw one that said something like, “In the case of rapture, this car will be unmanned, causing a rear-end crash and you damned to eternal hellfire.”
I swear, that’s what it said. I wasn’t particularly offended, but it did make me wonder why someone would put that on their car. They’re just assuming that anyone behind them is going to hell? That’s fucked up.
It is not that you are going to go to hell because you are not as perfect as them :rolleyes: , it is because you are still in the car. You see, if you were not going to hell, you would be heading to heaven at that very moment, not trying to avioid crashing.
Ah, ok. Well, if that happens, I’ll be sure to pray for forgiveness at the last minute. I’m told that’s an effective loophole to the whole rapture thing.
Assuming you notice that the other motorists have “raptured” you might ask for forgiveness ! Otherwise you’ll probably be swearing at what you think is a lousy driver in front of you !
This is very offensive… what an asshole to put such a thing… its the all too familiar “I’m saved and your damned” smug atitude.
You’re kidding, right? Do some Wiccan folks actually refer (seriously) to “the burning times”?
As far as the OP goes, I find it awfully hard to get riled up about bumper stickers. Now…that Calvin peeing on a Ford symbol…makes me angry!
The timing does make a big difference. Timing is everything in comedy, and this sticker is kinda funny. In addition, Christians are the majority group, and the majority group is fair game.
It’s easy to see how it could offend someone though, and only an asshole would want to offend allChristians, so it is assholish behaviour.
Perhaps, then, it could be sympathising with Christians who do believe in evolution? Less a parody of the fish symbol, more a melding of it with other beliefs. I could imagine a Christian having a Darwin fish bumper sticker themselves.
I’m a bit late to the party, sorry.
Here’s the reference that is usually meant (rather than the ones given previously). It’s from Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount:
Matthew 7:1-2, King James Version
Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
According to this passage, and the ones cited by Scott Plaid, no Christian should judge another person. I take that to mean we are not to draw conclusions about them. Of course, making observations about someone’s public behavior is not judging. Drawing conclusions about their intent would be.
Clear as mud?