He was the Ambassador to the United Nations at the time. Doesn’t make any difference to your reply - I’m just nitpicking. Certainly, hardly a flunky.
One eerie concidence never given enough attention - GWB was involved in flight training (National Guard), and so were the Arabs who eventually hijacked planes and crashed them into the World Trade Center*.
Not that I’m saying there’s any concrete connection. I’m sure not implying GWB was involved. Never even thought it. Just something for the list. Pretty wild stuff.
Quite a concidence, though.
See, this is fun. Everyone can play at home.
*assuming you still believe that planes were involved, when the truth is that the WTC towers were brought down by a giant cheese hurled by sentient lizards from Ocromicon.
One eerie concidence never given enough attention - GWB was involved in flight training (National Guard), and so were the Arabs who eventually hijacked planes and crashed them into the World Trade Center*.
Not that I’m saying there’s any concrete connection. I’m sure not implying GWB was involved. Never even thought it. Just something for the list. Pretty wild stuff.
Quite a concidence, though.
See, this is fun. Everyone can play at home.
*assuming you still believe that planes were involved, when the truth is that the WTC towers were brought down by a giant cheese hurled by sentient lizards from Necromicon.
So do “Bill Clinton” and “John Kennedy”! Amazing, Captain!
Yes, everyone can. But you went twice in a row, so you have to move to “Jail” without passing “Go”. You can stay in the “Just Visiting” space, but you have to skip your next turn.
In this, a bush is visible to the right of OBL’s head. Coincidence? I think not.
Bush the Elder was CIA director from Jan. 1976-Jan. 1977. In the middle of his tenure, a car bomb went off in Washington, D.C. that killed a Chilean and an American. After the bombing, the CIA obstructed justice in this case by feeding false information to the FBI and news media.
Bush was so popular in the CIA that when he was chosen an Reagan’s running mate in 1980, the CIA helped delay release of the American hostages in Iran to help Reagan win the election.
You could have given all of those examples with only one website
There is evidence that George Bush was meeting on a regular basis with representatives of the People’s Republic of China in 1974.
Actually, it was odder than that. They were in different cars and she T-boned him at a crossroads. IIRC, they were both doing about 50 yet it looked like you could drive his car home. Ah, the good ol’ days of American Cars! None of this dainty Swedish “crumple zone” shit. You, the driver, were the crumple zone.
t-keela, my friend, I don’t get what you were trying to avoid opening this thread in the Pit, of all places. At least folks are required to be polite in GD.
It’s quite common. The reduced tension seems to have something to do with it.
Jack your posts are becoming more like Justhink’s and nonpolar everyday. If you disagree with something, then prove me wrong. If you don’t like the thread don’t read it. I won’t say that you are a jerk or a troll. But the nature of your posts seem to reflect this attitude. I really wish that you would quit stalking me on the boards. You have nothing of importance to add to any thread in which you participate. You can’t seem to simply disagree or disprove or provide anything but your own negative remarks. It’s getting old.
dropzone amigo…I did not start this thread in the pit. I originally posted it in IMHO because that is what I felt like was the proper place for opinions and comments which are less adamant about sources and cites. The remarks made by some of those who followed is why we are here. As I said before, this OP is dead. The naysayers aren’t going to allow this thread to exist. That’s just the way they are. They can’t deny all of the coincidences that I was honestly attempting to compile. So they stand in the dark and shout insults in hopes that everyone who had anything to add of substance will just go away. They usually manage to accomplish their goal. This type of behavior should not be allowed but I’m not staff. I would not do this to anyone here at the SDMB, not even Jack.
That’s okay though, I could never hold a grudge against anyone for long. He can’t help himself I guess.
Who cares anyway, right?
If you came to the thread posting smartassed remarks and insults you’re wrong. If you don’t agree with something I’ve said then show me how I am incorrect. I expect a little bit more class from the members at this board than what I’ve seen here. No one has yet to show any example in the list thus far as being absolutely incorrect.
Little Nemo I think you are correct regarding Bush’s whereabouts that day. It was Nixon who was in Dallas after he denied it. George Bush simply claimed that he couldn’t remember where he was the day JFK was assassinated. I stand corrected on this point.
However, I think that is pure bullshit on GHWB part. If anyone here was an adult when this occurred, do you recall where you were that day? mm-hmm beside the point…I will remove it from the list as written.
-When JFK was killed, GHWB doesn’t remember where he was at the time. (that’s better)
-GWB was in an oil venture with Salaam. GWB bankrupted the business and all of the capital invested by SBL was lost.
-SBL was later killed in an accident near San Antonio in 1988 when the small aircraft he was flying lost its steering and crashed into a high voltage tower.
-Yes GHWB was the chairman and an ambassador to? IIRC but he was also one of Nixons advisors and was in line to be named VP but Ford got the call instead. On one of the key tapes Nixon recorded is a conversation between Nixon and Erlichman in which Nixon says to fire everyone but Bush because there’s nothing he wouldn’t do for us. As a result, all of the dirty bastards got fired and George got a promotion.
L/N I hadn’t planned on arguing every point in the list. That is why I wanted a list. A list whereby I could thoroughly dismiss or explain or whatever… all of the crap WE could come up with in regards to the BUSH curse. Bad luck, coincidence or however you choose to explain these events.
Here is an idea: If you want to make batshit-crazy assertions, then prove yourself right.
If only Mr Bush had bred with Miss Moore (I don’t think they had 'Ms’es in 1900s). At least the land of the free would have a President called Bore and no one would be able to take him seriously.
Especially if he came out of Air Force One toting a video camera in one hand and sticking a microphone up the head of state’s nose with the other.
Again Brutus the only thing you seem capable of is childish name calling. You apparently don’t have an actual dispute with anything in particular. You won’t come out and say…I don’t believe that #? on the list is true. I don’t believe you when you claim that GWB ever did drugs or that he had a problem with alcohol.
What is it that you disagree with? I have endorsed no conspiracy in this thread. I haven’t even claimed there aren’t legitimate and acceptable explanations for the events I’ve mentioned.
I also wasn’t starting a debate in the OP. it was a POLL it was a request for any members who could contribute an event which IN YOUR OPINION is of a coincidental or suspicious nature.
I suppose you think GWB is squeaky clean and that anything and everything in the Bush past should be automatically dismissed because… ? What, because he’s president?
You can’t actually come out and say what it is that I’ve posted you think is incorrect. You just don’t like the implications when confronted with the evidence. Too many coincidences even for you. Hear no evil.
Me, I am actually trying to sift through the bullshit and see what is fact and what is not. I will not simply dismiss the fact that Niel Bush was at John Hinkley’s parents house the day before Reagan was shot. It may very well be a simple coincidence BUT I’m not going to buy that until more is known. That does NOT mean that I automatically assume the Bush’s had anything to do with the shooting either.
People like you are the problem…you are afraid to know the truth. You have you preconcieved notion based on what TV says is true.
God forbid you find out your little world is more complicated than what you see on the news. Damn anyone who questions the establishment, right? Speak no evil, yep you rate all three.
BTW…where did I say or even imply that Salaam Bin Laden was a terrorist? Nowhere that’s where. I never said it, I never even thought that. Typical BBQ pit mentality. I simply think it is a strange coincidence that GWB is trying to kill the brother of the man he fucked out of millions and who actually died within a few miles of where GWB was living at the time. Coincidence? Maybe…what’dya think. Oh that’s right you don’t believe any of that. Salaam didn’t die in a plane crash in Texas. GWB was never in a failed business venture with Salaam and the Osama what?
Your logic is that if the Bushes were evil wouldn’t they hide it better?
You actually think this is a logical argument? Who besides you, and Bush of course, said anything about EVIL? Not me, don’t believe in it myself. What do I think? No one has asked yet.
The only thing people seem to be able to focus on is insults. That’s what the pit is good for and why I didn’t put it here.
I hope everyone noticed the fact that my most adamant mudslingers have yet to be specific about what it is they disagree with. They keep shouting conspiracy conspiracy…but exactly what conspiracy are they against. I’ve yet to bring forth a theory and every event I’ve named thus far. They don’t dispute their occurrences. At best they have only attempted to discredit the OP through fallacious means.
So tell me there is absolutley no truth to the Bush/Hitler connection. You can’t and you know it.
Tell me there is no discrepancy in GWB’s military records. same as above
Tell me Niel Bush did NOT know Hinkley. same
etc.
etc.
I am right about these things and you damned well know it.
No, as others have noted, it doesn’t work that way. As long as you keep making nutty assertions which are a) unfounded, b) of no demonstrable significance, or c) both, you will be called on it, as many have done here. Both SDMB and real-world standards place value on proofs being supplied to back up assertions, and do not require that critics disprove wild propositions. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
More standard -keela - never quite coming out and saying you believe something, but throwing it on out there anyway, always prepared to retreat into deniability when challenged.
I know that conspiracy addicts have a high quotient of paranoia, but allow me to set your fears about “stalking” to rest. You’re not worth it.
Actually, the “naysayers” have given life to your collection of bullgoose looniness. You should be grateful.
Jeez…I mean how many times did t-keela have to say he was just asking for ideas of what you may have thought about or heard? I think that is called brainstorming (but it actually requires a brain) not just striking back or relying on some remote (and probably incorrect) god almighty cite. He wanted to know what you thought people.
t-keela , have you ever considered in your paper how the bushmen (sic) seem intent on keeping their wimmen-folk (sic again) in the background? bushman 43 seemed to treat Barbara as a non-thinkier and Laura has moved the world’s greatest bully pulpit squarely back into the background. I would like for you to consider looking into that further for whatever you are doing.
**smartini ** steels herself because she knows she will get whacked for this post
bush 41 was married to Barbara :smack: I knew that but my keyboard didn’t 
My understanding is that the Bush and Hinkley families were friends through the oil business.
There is one allegation that Neil Bush was scheduled to have dinner with dinner with Scott Hinckley, John’s brother, on the night after the assassination attempt. Supposedly John Chancellor mentioned it in the evening news on the night of the assassination attempt and then there were no further references to it in any of the television news. I have read that mention was also made of this allegation in a daily newspaper in Texas. (It may have been in Houston.)
I think that Vanderbilt University in Nashville has archived news broadcasts for many years and might be able to supply information.
In an allegation of less sinister connotations, I have heard that one of John Kerry’s female ancestors – grandmother or great grandmother – was a bridesmaid in the wedding of one of George W. Bush’s female ancestors – a grandmother or great grandmother.
I don’t buy that at all. If someone posts an OP about two Presidents of the United States consisting of a group of ‘coincidences’ dragged from the blogs of the loony left, which would be highly negative if proved true, it’s pretty damn likely that the poster has a political goal in mind.
I suppose it’s possible that t-keela isn’t being disingenuous in his posting of this screed of Bush conspiracies, but if so, he’s exceptionally stupid and gullible. This kind of political concidence is very common, and it’s easy to draw links between US Presidents, or other senior political figures, at will. Check out this Snopes page for an explanation.