Bush quote from The Daily Show-- where did it come from?

Which, if I’d actually read the OP, was not in contention at all.

I’m way left of center, so I’m not exactly an apologist for this administration. I’m also not a fan of unciteable quotes.

The quote is not in CNN’s transcript of the press conference on March 13th, 2002; admittedly, I don’t know where they pull their data, whether it’s from the official transcripts or from what he actually said. . .but I’d think it’d be the former, nto the latter.

I also found this clip of the press conference in question (I think) on YouTube. I’m not able to listen to it, as my work computer does not have speakers, but I suspect that it does not contain the quote in question. Hopefully, it’ll help some.

That’s because the episode of TDS you keep referring to is beside the point. The quote is not found in that epsiode of TDS, true enough, but that is not de facto proof that the quote is not genuine. I’m pretty sure now that I just saw the press conference clip on a different episode (of which the quote in the OP is a paraphrase but not an inaccurate or unfair one).

is not evidence. ‘Your word is your cite’ is not good enough at the Straight Dope. Giraffe wasn’t “pretty sure,” he was absolutely sure. tdn was pretty adamant, too. And both have now come back and said, “Oops, I remembered wrong.”

Once and for all, put up or concede that you have absolutely no evidence to support your contention.

Which is what we’ve been saying! It’s what John said in his original dispute in the post I linked to above (Post #34 from the Pit thread). It’s what everyone who has endeavored to actually research the matter has learned and admitted.

Except you. Unless, of course, you’re finally admitting that now. That “quote” is a fabrication – a paraphrase of bits taken from one or more sources and strung together as if they were ever actually said together. They were not. That particular “quote” is not real.

Since the real quotes are damning enough, why on heaven’s earth do you persist in holding this one up?

To set the record straight, I was adamant that the quote was on video for all to see. I was not adamant about the wording of it. I probably should have been more clear on that point.

Ah, thank you. I did get a “you’ve blocked a pop-up” message, but I assumed it was an advert. You’re right, that’s the definitive cite.

That’s fair. I myself wasn’t on the “he must have said it” side - as I said, I wasn’t able to find a clip in which the quote was said - so I’m pretty much on the highly skeptical side. So no worries. :slight_smile:

Oh for crying out loud, that’s the whole point! What on earth would a “quote” be, if not “the wording of it?” If the “wording” is wrong, it’s not a quote, it’s a fabrication. Made-up. As in, George W. Bush never actually said, “I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority”.

He didn’t say that string of sentences in a press conference on 3/13/02. He didn’t say it in any clip that was aired at any time on The Daily Show. He didn’t say it in any clip that was included in Michael Moore’s F-9/11.

Those words, in that order, were not uttered by Bush.

He said similar words. He’s expressed similar sentiments. Those words and those sentiments are perfectly fair game for criticism (and contempt, as far as I’m concerned). And given that there’s enough real crap that’s spilled from Bush’s pie hole, I don’t see why people seem so hell-bent on using made-up ones.

I hate to tell you this, but you’re still being snippy.

Besides, the made-up quote and the real one are so similar as to be nearly indistiguishable.

No, they’re really not. Not at all.

To expand on what Gadarene said earlier–no, they really aren’t, beause the tones of the two quotes are very different. One of them is a somewhat-measured response given in the context of ostenably valid reasons why he isn’t concerned. The other makes him sound like a petulant 10 year-old. Also, the use of the word priority–which was never said in the original press conference–harkens back to his original statements after 9/11. That word invites the drawing of parallels that appear more damning than they actually are.

Tone is everything, especially in politics. Changing the tone of a person’s is almost as dishonest as changing the facts presented in the person’s quote.

What’s the difference?

They seem pretty much the same to me. Sure, the actual quote is more commensurate with the dignity of the office (such as it is), but the content is largely the same – Finding ObL isn’t important anymore.

Since the question has been answered, I’m going to ask a mod to close this thread lest it turn into a debate. If anyone wants to continue the discussion about the differences between the fake and the real quotes, feel free to open a GD thread. Thanks all.

The specific question “Did this clip air on TDS on that date” has been answered. The question “Did BUsh ever say those words in that order” I don’t believe has been. I, too, recall a clip with Bush saying “it’s just not a priority” . and none of the other statements given here in transcript form give those words.

If you want to continue looking for a credible news cite, know yourself out.

or knock yourself out, whichever works. :slight_smile: