It depends on what “Bible study” entails. If it’s offered in a secular context similar to “literature” or “mythology” then okay. For better or worse, the Judeo-Christian Testaments had a massive influence on Western cilivization; to be entirely ignorant of them is to be ignorant of a large portion of history.
If this an attempt to sidestep the Establishment Clause, then we have a major problem.
CaptMurdock:
It depends on what “Bible study” entails. If it’s offered in a secular context similar to “literature” or “mythology” then okay. For better or worse, the Judeo-Christian Testaments had a massive influence on Western cilivization; to be entirely ignorant of them is to be ignorant of a large portion of history.
If this an attempt to sidestep the Establishment Clause, then we have a major problem.
Well, duh, Mr. Obvious. :rolleyes:
That’s Professor Obvious to you, ducky.
Huh. I thought it would be Captain Obvious.
Locrian
January 28, 2019, 5:46pm
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CaptMurdock:
It depends on what “Bible study” entails. If it’s offered in a secular context similar to “literature” or “mythology” then okay. For better or worse, the Judeo-Christian Testaments had a massive influence on Western cilivization; to be entirely ignorant of them is to be ignorant of a large portion of history.
If this an attempt to sidestep the Establishment Clause, then we have a major problem.
No, that’s just his latest, “hey, GOP base, I said I like the Bible too” phase. Grasping at straws. Or quivers.
This is more up Pence’s prosperity alley.
It would be, but rather than join ROTC, he opted to stay in academia and let the student loans accrue…
CaptMurdock:
It depends on what “Bible study” entails. If it’s offered in a secular context similar to “literature” or “mythology” then okay. For better or worse, the Judeo-Christian Testaments had a massive influence on Western cilivization; to be entirely ignorant of them is to be ignorant of a large portion of history.
If this an attempt to sidestep the Establishment Clause, then we have a major problem.
Locrian:
No, that’s just his latest, “hey, GOP base, I said I like the Bible too” phase. Grasping at straws. Or quivers.
This is more up Pence’s prosperity alley.
But the potentially problematic part lies in the basic factuality of the thing he’s tweeting about. Which “numerous states” are doing this? Is there a place we can research details? Or is he just making it up?
Locrian
January 28, 2019, 6:04pm
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Many states, if not all, have bible literacy classes offered to anyone, probably by the churches or community centers. He doesn’t mention public schools as the venue though. So I call utter bullshit from the orange pie hole. What a surprise.
Trump on Starbucks CEO Howard Schulz considering a 2020 presidential run:
I guess he’s referring to himself as America’s smartest person in the room. It’s like saying “I’ve got the world’s longest hair in this room.” The worst part is, he clearly shows he still has no understanding of emoluments in the Constitution he’s supposed to protect.
Locrian
January 28, 2019, 6:07pm
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“Still paying me”?? Or still paying my family? Mememememe… All the freaking time.
If Howard Schulz wants to burn off a bunch of money for some reason, why not just buy a casino and hire Trump to run it?
It’s so important to him that he show Schulz “who’s boss” that he can’t help himself from admitting wrongdoing. Add that tweet to the list for the emoluments investigation.
garygnu
January 28, 2019, 7:11pm
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Because Schultz’s money doesn’t need to be laundered.
Locrian:
No, that’s just his latest, “hey, GOP base, I said I like the Bible too” phase. Grasping at straws. Or quivers.
This is more up Pence’s prosperity alley.
Vox has an article on this:
Why Trump is tweeting about studying the Bible
It’s not just because he was watching Fox News.
Trump hasn’t weighed in on the issue before and he hasn’t made prayer in schools a key piece of his agenda. But his long-solid support among evangelical voters is slipping. And his relationship with Fox News has been rocky recently. Backing a cause supported by many Christians and reminding Fox he’s still a loyal viewer made for a potentially politically useful tweet.
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What are Bible literacy bills?
Conservative groups have recently been coordinating in states to introduce bills that would allow classes on the Bible in public schools. As USA Today detailed in a recent piece, the legislation is the product of “an initiative called Project Blitz coordinated by conservative Christian political groups.”
In the past year, such bills have been introduced in North Dakota, Missouri, Indiana, West Virginia, Virginia, and Florida. A bill allowing students to take elective classes about the Bible and Hebrew scriptures has already been signed into law in Kentucky.
Amanda Tyler, executive director of the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty, told USA Today that Project Blitz has “put out a more than 100-page playbook that lays out very plainly their strategy into tiers of bills that they want to pass, and the last tier is promoting a particular religious point of view for legislation.”
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Trump’s evangelical support is slipping
NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll released a poll last week that showed his support slipping among evangelicals, from an approval-disapproval split of 73-17 last year to 66-23 this year.
Trump seems at least somewhat familiar with the NPR poll. He has repeatedly touted the poll’s finding that his approval rating among Latinos is up, while ignoring that the rest of it contains almost nothing but dire news for him.
While Trump doesn’t seem to be very familiar with the Bible, rarely if ever goes to church, and hasn’t exactly lived the life of a saint, he has proven to be remarkably, resiliently popular among white evangelicals. The NPR poll is one of the first indications of that support eroding. Trump’s Monday morning tweet might’ve represented an effort to shore it up.
Not to worry, everyone-else-is-going-to-hell-ites. Texas will write the textbooks, and publishers will go along or print fifty different versions.
I’d really hoped ebooks would end this nonsense, but no.
Trump’s evangelical support is slipping
NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll released a poll last week that showed his support slipping among evangelicals, from an approval-disapproval split of 73-17 last year to 66-23 this year.
So what? NPR and PBS listeners are all Jews and Marist is Catholic, FFS. Not Trump’s target audiences…today. Subject to change, of course.
Only on the chapter on Islam
Locrian
January 29, 2019, 9:20am
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This is why he refuses press conferences. With shit like this, someone will ask, “What’s your favorite bible quote?”
I can only imagine the answers. “They’re all good. All of them. The best words…”
