You do know that the statement was written by the show’s creator and read by an actor right?
This rhetoric is why Hillary lost. Congratulations liberals your own assholishness is why Trump won.
You fucking assholes.
Do you really think that telling someone with a different opinion than you that they are Super Evil Super Satan Super Hitler and that their children should be raped and murdered will convince them to agree with you?
Instead of rational calm conversation?
Oh, but I know, from what I’ve read on this board, that someone who has a different opinion than you is so Super Duper Evil Satan Hitler that in no way in hell should they be even engaged, is what you’ll say. BigT here is your announcement to give me one of your Patently Awesome Lectures. Or what I like to call one of your “pals” because we are all such “pals” here. Well that is unless some one has a differing opinion.
You know, for the Smartest Hippest People on the planet you sure are a bunch of fucking retarded assholes who love to be racist bigoted assholes.
Congratulations! You are exactly what you love to hate.
My bold.
You mean, like this post? Way to set an example.
“I didn’t want to vote for the racist, but those mean liberals kept calling me racist, so I had to.”
Precisely. Trump may not be that much of a threat to the institutions and security of the United States himself, and I frankly give even odds that he’ll resign within the first half of his term as he either gets bored or does something too egregious for the Republican majority (who has no love for him despite the fact that he’s shown them the winning path) to ignore, and he is forced to resign. (Trump would have no patience for impeachment and a Senate trial.)
But Trump appears to be preparing to install some of the most radically reactionary people ever to have control of the apparatus of the nation, and appears to be seeking advisors of similar bent. Setting aside the consequences of abandoning the Paris Agreement on greenhouse gas mitigation, the fact that he or his successor will be installing almost certainly three or more Supreme Court justices, developing deep ties with oligarical Russia, weakening NATO and strategic agreements with other nations such as Japan and South Korea, and generally pulling the temple down on our heads across the board on civil liberties from wiretapping, torture, recognition of LGBT and women’s protections, and the inevitable graft that we’ll see if every indication of what Trump has ever done in the last thirty years of business practice can be taken as indication will all have long term impacts upon the well-being of the nation long after Trump rotting in his gilded tomb.
This isn’t just about partisan differences or complaints that if the president doesn’t adhere to progressive principles that momentum will be lost and the clock will turn back a bit; Trump is not Mitt Romney or John McCain or Jeb Bush; he is a politically disinterested wheeler-dealer and vocational radical risk-taker who now holds the future of the nation, and indeed, significant control over the fate of the developed world in his toddler-sized hands. He has the temperment of a petulant child and the capability to hand effective control of the nation to conspiracy nutters and white nationalists. This is not normal.
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Such fire and conviction! Burn the country to the ground even! Explain 2016?
They know it and delight in it. Why do you think this board has Pit? It’s to allow their true nature to shine without sanction. If you don’t virtue signal as hard prepare for a barrage of vulgarity.
Should have, it’s a good read.
He bolded the important part
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This is not normal.
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The Democrats overestimated the intelligence and morality of the American people.
I think Trump may be coming to realize that while he may have won the country for four years, he’s lost New York City forever.
Don’t do that! Half the people have <= 100IQ! Stop overestimating. Didn’t Idiocracy teach you people anything?
Well said there, Stranger.
I doubt Trump will make it to his second anniversary as President, so the damage might not be too bad, but still wtf America!?
It won’t much matter; Trump alone would be bad, but the Republicans control Congress as well. If Trump dropped dead of heart failure tomorrow we’d still be headed for disaster.
The irony of this coming from you is sickening. No, I’m sorry, Mr. Republican Troll Who Never Posts Anything Actually Worth Reading, you don’t get to lecture us on our tone when talking about people who eagerly voted for the clueless, experience-free candidate white nationalists were hailing as the second coming and minorities were constantly restating their terror of. You don’t get to pretend to take the fucking high ground. That’s bullshit.
Yes, the racists won this go around because we liberals were too fucking lazy to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Instead of rolling our sleeves up and really trying to figure out why such a large segment of the population were voting for Trump, which BTW had large segments of both women and Hispanics, we liberals were all too eager to label them all witches in this fucking witch hunt.
And now, judging from this thread, so many of you still wish to dig your heels in and still cry witch!
Good luck with that.
I donno. He may be able to accept the damage his ego is going to go through by surrounding himself with yes men. And, his supporters will probably not abandon him because he won’t be able to close on any of his promises.
They voted against Hillary as much as they voted for Trump. Trump supporters achieved what they wanted, and would like to see trump stir things up as much as possible.
Or the wit to appreciate it.
This. And I assumed not many people would hold their noses and vote for him. We drastically underestimated the hatred of Hillary Clinton. I have a friend who described herself as ‘horrified’ by Trump being the Republican nominee, but in the end, she voted for him. It helps to understand that while the mainstream and leftwing media was reporting on every Trump scandal and vulgar comment, Republicans were getting a whole different narrative, one that demonized Clinton and liberals just as much as liberals demonized Trump and conservatives. It’s easy to say conservatives just weren’t getting, or ignoring, the ‘‘facts,’’ but each team plays with its own set of facts, and each team plays just as fast and loose with the facts as the other. Our refusal to acknowledge that our views are shaped by public narrative will be the undoing of us all.
I wasn’t shocked by Trump’s election, though I was a bit surprised. But there were plenty of statisticians indicating that the polling had a larger margin of error than usual. Nate Silver wasn’t wrong.
Well, now we know why print media and the investigative journalism associated with it is dying. Any ideas or arguements that can’t be presented in 140 characters aren’t worthy of consideration.
I don’t think it is “the liberals” who are being hunted. But quite honestly, this shouldn’t be framed as a “liberals versus conservatives” at this point. The people who voted Trump into the primaries didn’t vote for him based upon his conservative values. Donald Trump is not and has never been either a social or fiscal conservative, and he certainly does not reflect the morals and ethics of social conservatives and Evangelicals. He does not advocate a culture of personal responsibility and integrity, and indeed, his history and behavior displays the very antithesis of conservativeism. Trump promoted himself as the barbarian at the gate, the guy who was going to come in with a wrecking ball and tear the system down, “drain the swamp”, and send profesional politicians packing. He was going to bring back jobs, get rid of all of the dangerous illegal immigrants who are roaming the streets in search of daughters to rape, and and ban Muslims so that ISIS in America will stop constantly blowing up our buildings and going on shooting sprees. That all of these statements are factually unsupportable is irrelevant; Trump tapped into a basic fear that our government is not capable of providing physical safety and economic security, from terrorism and immigration to employment and safe drinking water, and he pledged simple if completely unworkable solutions. He’s basically the Joker come to reality, and he even has a similar countenance and manner of speaking.
The essential point here is that what Trump is doing is going to harm everyone in this country in some way, and wil probably harm some of the very people who voted for him the most. That message needs to be pointed out every time he does something of substantive harm to the nation as a whole or to significant parts of it, and it shouldn’t be diluted by outrage over some shitty thing he says on Twitter at a point that normal people are in bed having nightmares about having elected the Star-Spawn of Cthulhu in a bad combover as president. The focus cannot just be on Trump driving his gilded clown car through the halls of government until he is feted and resigns so he can spend more time sniffling through the dressing rooms of beauty pageant contestants or being the focus of a reality TV show, but also on the bevy of hateful reactionary people he is bringing with him and will remain once he is back grabbing pussy as once more a private citizen.
There is merit in pointing out that in selecting future candidates and focusing on issues, the Democrats can’t just focus on the wealthy suburban coastline base, and need to pay particular attention to demonstrating that their candidate is not someone who is beholden in any way to the very interests which savaged the economy for their own personal gain. They need to appeal to the mass of people who are looking for actual reform without endorsing the angry Hulk-smash mentality. They need to look beyond provincialism and select a candidate not based upon party loyalty and fundraising ability but who appeals to a wider range of people, and certainly someone who doesn’t enter a race with a predictable net negative approval rating. They’ll go in knowing that the right wing smear machine is going to sling manufactured scandal on a daily basis, but they shouldn’t be giving it any credibility by having a history of nontransparency and poor decision making.
But by the same token, the people who voted for Trump this year need to be reminded that even though they may not be racist, misogynistic, or homophobic themselves, when they hate-voted for a candidate who espoused those values, behaved like an ill-mannered toddler, and surrounded himself with people who were genuinely hateful, the result is what we have now. Not just Donald Trump, the Man-Baby President, but all of the shitty people, corrupt lobbyists, and alt-right radical reactionaries that he is brought with him. They need to be reminded that nearly everything Trump has claimed about himself and his values in this election has been a complete fabrication, and the result is going to be the antithesis of what he has promised. Those points need to be made clear so that enough people are not swayed by bombastic demagogues like Trump that there is anything close to this kind of election again. The next time there is a candidate who threatens to jail his opponent during a policy debate as if he is some kind of Central African strongman, the point needs to be made plainly that this is not normal or acceptable behavior from someone seeking public office, because by winning this election using those very tactics Trump has made it the new standard and you can bet that other candidates will ape this behavior in trying to get similar results.
None of this is normal, and the very fact that essential elements of this campaign appear to have been pulled from Arrested Development to an astonishing degree almost as if Trump had been on a late-night Netflix binge while putting together his strategy should highlight that.
Stranger