California Propositions 2024

Politics & Elections
25

Eh, involuntary servitude is involuntary servitude - I’m with the ACLU on this one. I believe in coddling prisoners, Scandinavian-style, the poor little misguided lambs :smiley:.

26

The missing Prop. 1 and Props 7-31: are they because a proposition gets a unique number before it is qualified to be on the ballot (and these numbers didn’t make the cut)?

27

Not exactly. Ballot numbers are reused but sometimes famous ones get retired or held back for a while. Prop 13 being the best example

28

Isn’t Prop 2 the the that’s cited on all the signs that say “This building contains chemicals that are known to the State of California to cause cancer”? I’d think that one would have been retired (or was that Prop. 26?).

29

Prop 65

30

Ah. Thanks.

#Tell_us_you’ve_moved_out_of_California_without_telling_us_you’ve_moved_out_of_California

31

AIUI the proposition numbering gets reset every so many years.

32

California has had the system of ballot propositions since 1912. The number of propositions has actually gone down since the 1910s, though the number of propositions stemming from statewide initiatives (as opposed to those placed on the ballot by the state legislature) has gone way up.

Here’s an interesting Ballotpedia page tracking the number of California propositions since 1912.

Number of ballot propositions per decade in California - Ballotpedia

33

Bump: the first ads have appeared - they are for Yes on 33 and No on “the revenge initiative” 34. Apparently, the reason the AIDS Healthcare Foundation is being targeted by 34 is its support of 33. The ad’s selling point: “Look at who is opposing 33 - MAGA.”

34

This election’s voter guide is out.

After a quick readthrough, here’s my gut choices.

2. Bonds for schools: YES.
3. Right to marry: YES.
4. Bonds for water and wildfires: NO.
5. Reduce local bond approval to 55%: YES.
6. Eliminate prison slavery: YES.
32. Set minimum wage increases: YES.
33. Allows rent control: NO.
34. Healthcare spending enforcement: NO.
35. Permanent Medi-Cal funding: YES.
36. Three-strikes drug sentences: NO.

I’ll reevaluate before I vote.

35
  1. Bonds for schools: no
  2. Right to marry: YES.
  3. Bonds for water and wildfires: maybe.
  4. Reduce local bond approval to 55%: YES.
  5. Eliminate prison slavery: no.
  6. Set minimum wage increases: maybe
  7. Allows rent control: maybe
36

All propositions scream NO by default. It is the rare one that ever screams YES.

37

Fair point. My default is always NO and they have to talk me into YES

38

My gut feeling is “Yes” on everything except 34 and 36.

I’ll re-evaluate when my ballot arrives.

39

Same here on both statements, though I’m not positive I understand 34.

40

Re: The minimum wage increase. My work tangentially touches on the minimum wage (although not to the extent that I have any insider information, or understanding of why this change is being proposed).

The current version of the law had it increasing over the past 7 years, and THEN once it reached $15, the minimum wage automatically adjusts (either stays the same, or increases - cannot decrease) based on changes to the US Consumer Price Index for Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers. That process is how it was increased to $16/hour starting this year – and they’ve already announced the new amount – $16.50 – starting 1/1/25. (California Announces New Minimum Wage Rates for 2025)

So this one for me is a “no, unless I am convinced otherwise”. The current minimum wage law included the automatic increases to AVOID further legislation, and here we are changing it again before we’ve had a chance to see whether tying the increases to the US Consumer Price Index is better or worse for employees. (Note: I’m all for a higher minimum wage, so if the data suggests that the proposed law would actually be better for employees, I’m all for it – but, it caps at $18, so we’d need to amend it again after that, versus the current law which will just keep increasing it).

Here’s a link to the current CA minimum wage law, in all of its glorious legalese. Section (c)(1-3) is the auto adjusting portion: California Code, LAB 1182.12.

41

Here are the party endorsements.

Prop CADEM CAGOP
2 YES YES
3 YES
4 YES NO
5 YES NO
6 YES NO
32 YES NO
33 YES NO
34 YES
35 YES YES
36 NO YES

Cites:
CADEM 2024 General Election Endorsements (pdf)
CAGOP General Election Endorsements

42

Got my ballot a couple days ago, did a fair amount of reading. I went with no on 34 (on the principle that I don’t want to vote for an initiative targeting a single person no matter what I think about the issue) and no on 36 (we’re not going to incarcerate our way out of the problem).

43

I vote NO on pretty much all bonds, except those to build real property. Yeah, i get 'this stuff is important!!!"- but if so, why not pay for it out of the budget?

5- NO, Not to tax increases.

  1. No- in CA Prisoners get pretty decent meals and amenities in State facilities. (This bill does not cover Federal prisons of course). Why shouldnt they work for their meals? They even get paid.
    36- pure MAGA scare tactics. Crime is down, especially violent crime, so people are making minor theft and shoplifting out to be a horrible thing, deserving of Life imprisonment. Inspector Javert would love this bill.

Yes on 3, but it will pass by a landslide anyway.

More or less I voted NO on most except 3 & 32.

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Here are the party endorsements, updated with the L.A. Times.

Prop CADEM CAGOP LAT
2 YES YES YES
3 YES YES
4 YES NO YES
5 YES NO YES
6 YES NO YES
32 YES NO YES
33 YES NO NO
34 YES NO
35 YES YES NO
36 NO YES NO

Cites:
CADEM 2024 General Election Endorsements (pdf)
CAGOP General Election Endorsements
L.A. Times electoral endorsements for 2024 November election