Ah, so you really don’t know what you’re talking about, H4E. Thanks for clearing that up.
Next thing you really ought to do is check out the dictionary definition of “bias.”
Now wait a minute.
I’ve heard at least one evangelical Christian, who was definitely not a Mormon, say that:[LIST=A][li]The Holy Spirit is the 3rd person of the Trinity, with the emphasis on “person”; and[/li]When using pronouns, the Holy Spirit is to be referred to as “He”.[/LIST]Is this not the case?
My goodness, H4E. I have rarely read such a strange list of my so-called beliefs–and I’ve read some interesting lists. Have you never heard of the tactics of anti-Mormons, which include claiming to be formerly LDS, twisting actual doctrine to be unrecognizable, and outright lying?
Perhaps you should hie you down to someplace where you can get some real information. www.mormon.org is someplace to start, but you seem to need more than a simple overview. I’ll be back later with a list, since I have to go to a youth activity now.
H4E, that was hilarious. Ironic, witty, and a great satire on the stupid things people think about Mormons.
waitasecond… you weren’t serious? were you?
Kirk
dreamer, it took me and my boyfriend awhile to find a church that we both liked. He was raised Baptist and I was raised Pentacostal. When we got together, he wasn’t comfortable in a Pentacostal church, and the church he took me to was to down beat. I just didn’t get anything out of it, ya know what I mean?! We stumbled across BethIsrael through a co-worker/friend of mine. It was everything we wanted. It is a bible teaching church that is very upbeat with a Jewish sound. I know that may sound silly, but I like it.
Well, you don’t have to, since they’re NOT Christian. 
Sola Scripture-meaning you go by the Scriptures alone. It doesn’t matter that there may be other schools of thought and philosophy. That’s a shame-because early Christianity got a lot from the works of Plato and Aristotle, as well as early Christian philosophers like St. Augustine of Hippo and Thomas Aquinas.
Actually Monty, when someone says " We don’t claim to follow the bible" I take it as " We don’t claim to follow the bible". Call me crazy. :rolleyes:
I don’t know, maybe forgeries?
His4Ever, this woman sounds like another Alberto Rivera-in short, a fraud.
Please tell us the name of this book and the author. I’d like to research this book.
My goodness, H4E. I have rarely read such a strange list of my so-called beliefs–and I’ve read some interesting lists. Have you never heard of the tactics of anti-Mormons, which include claiming to be formerly LDS, twisting actual doctrine to be unrecognizable, and outright lying?
Perhaps you should hie you down to someplace where you can get some real information. www.mormon.org is someplace to start, but you seem to need more than a simple overview. I’ll be back later with a list, since I have to go to a youth activity now (where we will, of course, be sacrificing goats…)
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*Originally posted by His4ever *
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I’m not a mormon, so I feel free to attack.
You know, there’s a weird concept you perhaps never heard about and which is very convenient when you want to sell books…
It’s called “lie”. The general idea is to state something which is untrue, as weird as it could seem. For instance I can say “I’m a close friend of the pope”. It’s a lie. Actually, I’m not a good friend of the pope. I can add then : “since I’m a good friend of the pope, I know about the secret teachings of the catholic church”. It’s also a lie. The truth is that I know nothing about the secret teachings of the catholic church. A lie can be more elaborate. For instance I could actually be a good friend of the pope, and know about the secret teachings of the church, but instead of disclosing these secrets, I could make up a complete set of teachings which have nothing to do with the real ones.
Finally liars (people who lie) can use extremely subtle tricks. For instance, typying some lies (see above) on a sheet of paper, and saying the sheet of paper comes directly from the pope’s office. This is called a “fake”.
Usually, the more “lies” you tell and the more “fakes” you make, the more books you sell. Lies have also a strange property very useful for the “liar”. For an unknown reason still investigated by many scientists, they spread quicker and more widely than truth. This property generally allows the “liar” (also called “crook”) to sell even more books.
fluiddruid, I don’t know if I can be as enlightened as you, 
oh no, did I laugh out loud?! but here goes:
If I made changes to the bible and added stuff in to suite my beliefs, then yes, I would expect people to say I am not a Christian.
2 Timonthy 4:3For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
Mark 7:6 He replied, "Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written: “‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.
7 They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.’
8 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to the traditions of men.”
Revelation 22:18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.
19 And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
So tell me, JerseyDiamond how is it that you’re so sure that it’s not your ears that are itching?
From a catholic position, Jersey, every single one of your quotes applies to the Protestant reformers, and their successors.
Honey, you just keep on doin’ what you been doin’.
Monty, is this fairly accurate?
http://www.watchman.org/cat95.htm#LDS
His4ever’s book jacket set off my Urban Legend “Oh come on” alarms in a big way. Googling for things like “jesus polygamist lucifer blood brother”, I seem to be finding out that these are things that are repeated by conservative Christians who are oppposed to Mormonism. Like these folks, who seem to be a sort of self-appointed Inquisition, searching out heresy wherever it may be.
According to them, today’s heresies include Mormonism, the Jehovah’s Witnesses, and the International Church of Christ. Their “Mormonism” page sounds very similar to the book that His4ever is talking about.
I am especially interested in their “take” on the Paternity of Jesus.
'Zat so? But isn’t that just another way, albeit a rather sleazy, soap-opera-ish way, of putting “the Holy Spirit got her pregnant”? And yeah, aren’t we all “children of God”? So yeah, Mary was God’s own “daughter”, if ya wanna look at it that way. Am I missing something, theologically nit-pickily speaking?
So. Anyway. [shrug] His4ever, we’d sure like to know the name of the author of that book you’ve got.
I would say, Duck, that that blurb is pretty good, though not completely accurate. I’ve never heard a distinction between the Holy Ghost vs. Holy Spirit, for example, and would not say some of those other things in exactly that way. But it’s certainly better than some of the nonsense we’ve had here! Here’s an idea for some of you out there: it’s usually better to ask an actual member of the religion in question about what they believe, rather than someone who is not a member, and so does not know. People routinely get even the most basic LDS beliefs wrong, which is kind of stunning–they’re not that complex.
Your last quote, of course, is a twisted version of what LDS believe, which is that Jesus was the only begotten, actual real live son of God. No sex necessary, though–it does say she was a virgin. We are all spirit children of our heavenly parents (I’m not sure what that ‘literal’ bit means?).
Books H4E might be well advised to peruse include:
The Mormon experience, a history for non-LDS written by an LDS historian
How wide the divide?, a conversation between an evangelical and a Mormon theologian
What do Mormons believe?, a short overview of LDS beliefsThe new Mormon challenge, which at least tries to bring anti-Mormons out of the habit of reprinting lies that were debunked 100 years ago
DDG:
You’re also misrepresenting the actual teachings, but in your case it’s from oversimplifying it for the intended audience and it’s not too misrepresented. (I’m sure you don’t include me as part of an audience that needs to have it “kindergardened down” to understand it). “Blood brother,” the term which H4E the Niner used, is an obviously loaded term intended to incite those who know no better against the LDS. As the cite you provided shows, the actual teaching is that we’re all God’s spirit children. Now it’s time for me to trot out my favourite analogy—>Consider the case of two brothers, one a priest and the other a hit man. The priest is still a good man. It’s only in the Niners’ (not the sports team) minds that the fact of a sibling relationship corrupts the good.
In other words: No, the cite you provided does not say the same things that the hypocrite said our teachings are.
The 1970s?
I imagine you would have trouble convincing William Jennings Bryan and Clarence Darrow of that. 
Regards,
Shodan
The name of the book is Mormonism, Mama, & Me by Thelma “Granny” Greer. Why in the world would an old lady lie about a religion she was raised in. Is it that because it doesn’t agree with your beliefs, it must be wrong right? Just because the book disagrees with you, the author is a fraud, right? This is getting ridiculous imo.:smack:
You might as well forget it, Jersey, anyone who comes in here giving an opinion that differs from theirs is automatically wrong and they’re right about everything. I agree wholeheartedly with you especially the Scripture about heaping to yourselves teachers that tell you what your itching ears want to hear. They are the ones with the itching ears. They just don’t know it cos the devil is determined that they don’t know it and they won’t listen to anyone who says different.