I’m trying to be a helpful Doper, providing useful information to someone with a general question. I am not attempting to provide legal advice, nor am I arguing to a Court or Agency. I linked to a wikipedia article, which provides a useful summary of WC law for laymen.
Dickwad, aka Campion, decides he wants to get all pissy about it.
Fuck you, your mother, your father, your children, all your ancestors, and all the horses that carried their sorry asses wherever the hell they went. Get over yourself already. You are not the sole determiner of what is and what is not the right way to post on a fucking message board. You are a self righteous pain in the ass with a holier than thou attitude, and you caught me on the wrong night.
You picked a fight without provocation, for no reason other than to toot your own little brass horn. I want you to polish the aforesaid horn real shiny. Make it sparkle. Then turn that sumbitch sideways, and stick it right up your candy ass. And learn some damn manners while you’re at it.
I won’t be wronged. I won’t be insulted. I won’t be laid a-hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them. * John Berbard Books, The Shootist
Campion has a long and distinguished history of answering legal questions here with meticulous legal research and true civility.
You, on the other hand, linked to an unsourced wikipedia article and, when called on it, turned into a pissy little bitch who, while popping off in an extremely condescending and infantile fashion took offense at nothing and demanded apology for the same.
Three dozen of you laid end to end aren’t worth one of Campion. Grow the hell up, read some more of the legal threads so you see how a real lawyer answers them and do yourself a favor, email a mod and beg for this abortion of a thread to be shut down before you get the pulsating shitstorm you so richly deserve rained down on your pointy little head.
I don’t have a dog in this fight one way or another, but Oak, his first reply was questioning your source, not you personally. I did not see any hint of a personal assault in it. When debating, it is ok to challenge a persons cite.
It seems to me that you made this personal. Is there a shitory between the two of you, or more to this story?
I don’t give a rat’s ass if Campion has a seat on the Supreme Court. The asswipe talked down to me like I’m some fucking first year law student. I’m not. I’m a veteran lawyer, and when I’m not in Court, I tend to use the vernacular as much as possible. Campion was not the guy that asked for the cite in the first place. The information I quoted is accurate. Wikipedia is an adequate source for my intended purpose. There was no reason or justification for him to get snotty with me. Had he made his point politely, I’d have let it go. He didn’t, so now it’s on.
She really wasn’t unpleasant to you in the least. In fact, she was quite polite and right that you ought to have perhaps provided some caselaw/statute for your proposition.
Giving legal advice here is a bad idea. Especially if you’re specialised (more and more the case)-most of the stuff I’ve found gets asked are standard torts type stuff and its variants…that I know I haven’t bothered dealing with since 1L torts. It would make me really uncomfortable to ever give advice on anything relating to the law unless it were about working for the feds/the obscure area of law I practice.
Not to mention, you can’t bill it so why fall into that quagmire?
I don’t have any beef with you personally but Campion has always been really pleasant and helpful to all the law students/new lawyers (including yours truly). I don’t know how long you’ve been practicing but it can be worth it to take the advice of those who have been out there for longer than some of us. After all, why reinvent the wheel or break new snowtracks…or whatever…
Oakminster, you were wrong. You offered unsupported information, and then balked when asked for a cite. You’ve been here long enough to know that that’s not how the board works, regardless of whether you’re an attorney or not. This isn’t the first time you’ve turned into an arrogant prick when questioned on a matter of law. You’re posting on a board with intelligent people who are quite capable of reading legal citations, even if their understanding of those citations isn’t as clear as yours. Suck it up and apologize.
Or you could wait for the pile on. Up to you, I guess.
He did not talk down to you. Really, re-read it, relax and reflect. If your reasonable, you will see you are wrong and ask for this thread to be closed.
However, given your quote above “he talked down to me like a first year etc…” I get the sense you have an extremely large ego and anyone questioning you, in anyway, is insulting you. This will not bode well for you on this board.
I thought She was a guy. I do not provide legal advice on this board. When someone asks a question in an area I know something about, I respond in very general terms, and point out that laws vary by state. As I did in this instance. She did not challenge the accuracy of the information I quoted. She got pissy because it came from wikipedia instead of caselaw or statutes/regulations.
The proposition I advanced is that in some states, you can get fired for filing a WC claim. That’s true. It will not be any more true if I provide a 50 page brief filled with citations in proper bluebook form. My beef here is she picked a fight over nothing.
Oak: As someone who, early on, suggested that you join this MB, take it from me-- you’re waaaaaaaaays out of line here. You’ve been a great addition to a number of GD threads, and it’s clear you aren’t some thin-skinned neophyte. But that’s exaclty what you looked liked in that GQ thread. **Campion **was somewhat condescending, trying to dismiss your post with some fancy lawyer talk, but you ratcheted things up several notches almost instantaneously. You didn’t need to take it so personally. Be smart and chalk this one up to experience. No one will think the less of you-- in fact, it’ll be quite the contrary.
Pointing out that a proffered cite is unpersuasive is not “picking a fight” in the standard lexicon. Telling someone that you don’t give a damn what they think and whipping out your [del]dick[/del] diploma while you condescendingly demand to know what she does for a living is.
And while I did appreciate the opportunity to bust out what I thought was a pretty good wisecrack (which, come on, where’s the love people!), your continued insistence on playing at being the wounded lamb is coming off as more and more pathetic.
Maybe I did take more offense than was intended. Her post hit me the wrong way at the wrong time. I did not provide bad information. Wikipedia is quick and dirty, but when the info is correct, it’s an adequate cite for my intended purpose. Wikipedia is routinely cited for very basic information here. Thats all I was attempting to provide. I was trying to be helpful, not pick a fight with anybody.
