How has Shakes trivialized rape? Be specific, I’m honestly curious.
ETA: It seems to me that just because someone believes that a dog forcing itself on a dog who doesn’t want to be mounted,or …ass to ass…is rape…that doesn’t mean that the person doesn’t feel that human rape isn’t a horrid, horrid thing.
He’s suggested that rape doesn’t necessarily have to be immoral or illegal. I find that fairly trivializing.
Phew! They can’t get me then, no matter what that bitch barks.
When I was living up North, there was a dog named Johnnie or Johnny that was known to the neighborhood on the main drag in town. I think he belonged to a street vendor. One night after a friend and I had imbibed a few beers, we were eating at a street stand, and Johnnie started going at this one bitch in heat. But she wouldn’t have any of it. Turned around violently and started barking away at him. While she was doing that, another male ran up and started doing her. So she whipped around violently and started barking at that one, allowing a third to run up. There were three or four males, and it kept going like that, and the whole thing looked like some sort of slapstick comedy. Maybe it was the beers, but we about fell off our stools laughing so hard. But it sure seemed like a gang rape.
Rape is being trivialized here because we all get that canine (or feline) sexuality works this way. Its natural. Its been this way since mammals have had sexuality. A rapist might try to justify his crimes by claiming that if other mammals can do it…
Also, rape involves lack of consent and animals dont ask for nor receive it. Also, except for chimps, animals dont murder.
Yeah, and you conveniently left out the part where I said in the context of dogs raping each other. you can’t just hand wave that away.
Look, we started this conversation debating the semantics of rape, and weather or not it makes sense to use that word with regards to dogs.
After much discussion, you come out of left field talking about “It trivializes real rape.” (something no one else has done) while at the same time regarding the OP’s original statements as “stupid”
I laughed at your assertion that using rape, with regards to dogs, trivializes rape. Since you couldn’t make a valid argument against my assertion that this is an argument about pedantic snobbery, you then double down on your very next post and imply that I, personally, am trivializing rape.
I can’t think of a greater insult, because I happen to think rape is as about as bad as it gets. Right there under dying a torturous death.
Hmm, I read all this and am still none the wiser. When I was a kid we had a female doberman who we found mauled and nearly dead one day. There were some pitt bulls in the area that traveled together and my parents said they probably did it. It didn’t look like she’d make it, but after taking her to the vet and nursing her back to health for a while we noticed her belly was getting large and about the time she was mostly recovered (minus permanent scars and injuries) she gave birth to a litter of puppies. The vet agreed that they appeared to be part pitt bull. They were beautiful and we kept one which was the greatest dog ever.
So, no one witnessed her being gang raped, but she was mauled, probably by multiple dogs, at the same time she got pregnant. Who knows, maybe they made sweet love then had a spat afterward.
I don’t think I could say whether she was traumatized by it or not. She was a very skittish dog that had probably been abused before we got her anyway. Us kids would put our hand out and she would very slowly creep toward it, shaking all the way, and run for cover if we made a sudden movement or sound. That continued after the incident but I don’t remember any other strange behavior or that getting any worse.
I wasn’t leaving out that context, that was precisely the context in which I was saying the term shouldn’t be used, because it trivializes the term.
At no point in this thread have I called anything said by the OP stupid. I’m also not the person who first brought up the idea that using the term trivializes actual rape. That idea was introduced into the thread in post 14. By the OP.
Wait a tic. You made baseless statement about my motivation in posting here. That’s not a rebuttable argument, it’s just a misstatement of fact. I know my motivation, you don’t. I don’t need to provide any evidence that you’re wrong about that, other than to tell you what my actual motivation is.
And, of course, once I corrected you, and pointed out my real argument, you entirely failed to address it. You just said, “Is not!”
Well, then you should really stop doing that.