I’ve told several of my friends and relatives who want to continuously bitch about Obama, that he does NOT make legislation, he only signs it… or not. Where they need to start is by pruning the House and Senate.
NBC has just projected Gingrich as the winner in South Carolina.
You are avoiding the question. You are inserting your own words into my mouth (or into my writing, if you prefer).
Again: did I say that Bush was to blame?
If the answer is no, admit it and apologize.
What WMDs did Iraq have?
You do recall that we invaded Iraq and found no WMDs. Don’t you?
Remarkably easy, considering.
Sigh,
based on your reasoning after your post in which you demanded I apologize or “shut the fuck up” I could have demanded you show where in post 167(the post which angered you) that I said you blamed Bush for 911.
I could have simply said, “Show me where I said you blamed Bush or specified that you were the one who blamed Bush for 911. I merely said that ‘It’s asinine to blame Bush for 911.’ I never said you were one of those people.”
However, I didn’t do it because that would have been an example of pedantry and hair-splitting which doesn’t impress anyone.
In reality I made a statement that would cause most people to assume that I believed that you’d blamed Bush for 911 and you made a statement who’s tone certainly very strongly suggested that somehow Bush’s conduct as President was responsible for 911.
No, I have nothing to apologize for. You made a statement which strongly implied that Bush’s conduct as President was somehow responsible for 911 occurring and I also have not accused you of bigotry nor have I told you to “shut the fuck up.”
Anyway, I don’t see why you’re still arguing this point.
You’ll also notice that under his watch Al Quaeda never managed to get ahold of the Ark of the Covenant.
The Ethiopians have that.
True, but under George Bush’s watch was Osama able to get his hands on the Shroud of Turin?
I personally warrant that was ONLY the Obama presidency that prevented the rise of Cthulhu.
Stop mocking the power of the magick man!
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Guys, please, don’t let SA troll you like this. He didn’t even put any effort into it. He’s rusty. He basically just said “Okay, what ridiculous shit would SA write here? Let’s make it almost seem like a Poe’s law parody… hmm… praise Nixon and GWB!”
Seriously, at least make him make an effort to hijack a thread. This attempt was lazy and pathetic. Back to Gingrich.
And whatever else you do, please stop live-quoting him.
Both of you are out of line here. Posts like this aren’t appropriate for a debate forum. If you have to make them, do it in the Pit.
We already pruned congress by ending the democrat super-majority. Rubber stamping by the President on bills that no one knew what was in it - ended a year ago.
No, I think in the long run he made the right decision in pardoning Nixon. Not because Nixon deserved a pardon but because the Watergate situation had become an American version of the Dreyfuss Affair - the country had divided up into two sides and each side was determined to beat the other. Ford just decided that punishing Nixon wasn’t worth the cost of breaking the country in half. Rather than let one side win and one side lose - which would have been a major blow to American society either way - he cancelled the game.
I believed this until pretty recently. But the country has broken in half anyway. Ind in more recent years, it seems more and more powerful people (and institutions) are getting let off the hook with a slap on the wrist, a fine, or nothing at all. There’s a book out about this trend that traces it back to the Nixon pardon. The idea of not punishing the guilty because it will cause problems, ends up causing problems.
Yeah, you 'd think that at some point someone would have figured out that leaving the crooks in charge of Wall Street would lead to nothing but more shenanigans. But nooooooo …
Didn’t buy it at the time, didn’t buy this morning. Can you imagine if say there were a Democratic Speaker (I think there was, actually, can’t remember who) and Ford had suddenly died, that new Democratic President would have pardoned Nixon? Never in a zillion years. It was a cowardly, ass-covering purely political choice of Ford’s that will forever sully his reputation, not that it was all that much to begin with. He was a hack, and this is his legacy. Too big to fail, my ass. Punishing a corrupt President harms the country, my other ass.
Actually, you’re right in one sense. It didn’t buy it at the time – I was pretty outraged. Within a few years I began to think differently, and now I’ve come full circle.
And in particular about Nixon, I believe he’s the guy we can point to when looking at the breakdown in trust between citizens and the government. Him and Reagan, who ran on the concept that government isn’t a solution, it’s the problem. But Nixon much more so.
You don’t say ?! 
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No, I think in the long run he made the right decision in pardoning Nixon. Not because Nixon deserved a pardon but because the Watergate situation had become an American version of the Dreyfuss Affair - the country had divided up into two sides and each side was determined to beat the other. Ford just decided that punishing Nixon wasn’t worth the cost of breaking the country in half. Rather than let one side win and one side lose - which would have been a major blow to American society either way - he cancelled the game.
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You know, one side *did *end up “winning” the Dreyfuss Affair. France found it in itself to truck on somehow.
Maybe it wasn’t all that important after all.