Can Gingrich Be Serious?

I’m with John Mace, Ibn Warraq and jtgain here. He fully admits to failing WRT having affairs. But what he says didn’t happen was that he asked his wife for an open marriage, the point being that if he had she surely would have voiced her displeasure to their mutual friends, family, etc. He’s simply saying they would know so check with them and they’ll confirm that it’s the first they’ve heard about it. Conclusion: manufactured by the ex wife.

In my mind the reason he finds this a distinction worth making is because lots of people have affairs and some will find it within themselves to overlook that failing on his part. But an open marriage is a horse of a different color, that’s likely perceived as some weird-assed deviancy there and understandably he is drawing a line between the two.

I’m no fan of Gingrich, but there’s plenty of real things he’s done that disqualify him and no need to exaggerate or inflate his record to make him unattractive as a candidate.

Yeah… ‘open marriage’ is a difficult thing to reconcile with ‘family values’.

I remember when my wife asked my if I wanted an open marriage and I said, “yes, sweetheart, I want to be open with you about everything.”
That handled that question and got me a really nice result.

Seriously, ya’ll, if you want to be married to a gal, then be MARRIED to her.
Otherwise, just have her as your girlfriend that you are fooling around on.
There is a reason we have a marriage ceremony.
Or we used to.

It is also just now that there is considerable opposition from less moderate elements, have you not noticed?

What, a 3am “Surprise!” and some dude’s nads dangling in front of your nose? Wife goin’, “What did you think I meant, honey?!” :confused:

Based on the 20 second clip they keep showing everywhere, I don’t think Gingrich was asking her for an “open marriage”. She used that term, but it sounds like he was just saying, “Either leave or quit your bitching.”

I really wish that a certain level of hypocrisy could just cause people to spontaneously combust. This is the guy who created a fucking national witchhunt over Clinton’s blowjob, who has a worse record in office himself, having the righteous outrage that a news agency had the audacity to involve personal matters into politics.

And instead of getting fucking laughed off, his supporters cheer him on. I bet 98% of those supporters, at least those who were old enough, were also OUTRAGED!!! about Clinton’s blowjob.

So fucking stupid.

What’s more boorish?
A. Cheating on your second wife
B. Asking permission to have extra-marital sex

Choice C, “don’t cheat”, isn’t valid. This woman was implicit in the affair he had with his first wife and most men aren’t monogamous by nature.

As long as we don’t have to relive Maximum Clonage, I’ll be okay.

Most men don’t pretend they support “family values” while boinking bottle blondes. This is why Newt deserves to be crucified over this, not because the infidelity is unthinkable. Democrats should get a pass, because everybody knows they have no morals. Republicans hold themselves to a higher standard, so when their peccadillos are exposed, they have further to fall, and justifiably so. Republicans created the unrealistic standard, so let them be broken upon it.

Her general displeasure, maybe. The sordid details? I doubt it. There is surely no “surely” about it.

The guy has a track record. He has close associates who have stated for the record what an asshole he was to his first wife. He claims she wanted the divorce, but the court documents show that she fought it, so he is a proven liar about that (and is still lying about it). And the daughters that he is offering as character witnesses are the children of his first wife. In other words, they feel they have every reason to despise Marianne, whom they see as a homewrecker. How likely is it that they would be so close to her that she would tell them the most humiliating details of her sexual relationship with their father?

And if that’s not enough, both have a financial stake in Newt’s success. One daughter is president of Gingrich Communications, and probably hopes to be the next White House Director of Communications. The other just published an insipid book, which wouldn’t have gotten to first base if Newt hadn’t put his name on it as a co-author. This daughter is such a piece of work that, by an amazing coincidence, she waited until just after her book was published to break her 31-year silence about Newt’s infamous hospital divorce discussion with his first wife, and say no, he didn’t do that at all. As if he would have done it in front of a 13-year old girl.

So which do you think is more likely — that the serial liar is telling the truth, or that his daughters are happy to combine business with pleasure in trashing a woman they hate, and maybe getting a chance to work in the West Wing?

While that’s taking it far, certainly it’s quite bizarre how these family values groups undyingly support guys like Gingrich and all of those anti-gay congressmen who get discovered giving a blowjob to some dude every 3 weeks or so, and while hating family man Obama and his impeccable personal life.

Or… hypocritical. That’s probably a better word for it. Retarded? Assholish? Despicable? Rimjobesque?

How about:
C. Asking permission to have extra-marital sex after cheating on your second wife for several years?

Best guess is he was boinking Callista for at least five years before he asked Marianne for an open marriage.

I think it was Jimmy Kimmel last night who said that Newt really puts the “hippo” in “hypocritical.”

Yeah.
That is exactly what happened.

Nice.

We could ask Jackie Battley to share any anecdotes that come to mind about a vindictive Gingrich. Oh wait.

Jackie Battley … Jack Batty … close enough.

What do you need to know?

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So what was the sex change like?

Personally, I’m still trying to wrap my mind around the notion that a guy who looks like the spawn of Dwight Schrute and the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man is apparently a chick magnet.

That’s not flip flopping. That’s a trade-in. Both wives were several tears old with serious engine problems.

These eyes have seen goatse, Tubgirl, Eel Girl, and Lemon Party and my gaze never wavered. I watched 2 Girls 1 Cup with the stoicism of a moai. I’ve seen all manner of depravity— the zoophile, the coprophage, the necrophile. None of these burned-in images makes the vomitus rise in my throat faster than the fleeting thought of a fellow human being engaged in a sex act with Newt Gingrich.