I’m no expert. Maybe it is. Maybe it isn’t. However, the title of the article I linked in post 394 was, “Prosecutors could appeal to federal court on justices’ failure to recuse.” So at least someone thinks it may end up in front of SCOTUS.
Your cite misstates the case. The justices did not receive any of the money in question.
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And the OP was written by somebody who thought that Walker would not be re-elected, and would be indicted.
You ought not to confuse what the anti-Walker folks in Wisconsin and nationally say, with what is real. It generally turns out to be accusations, spin, and wishful thinking.
The progressives in Wisconsin are nothing if not persistent. Their investigations keep getting shut down for lack of evidence, the courts tell them that the basis for their allegations is wrong, the election results tell them that their candidates are losers. Yet they keep trying.
Regards,
Shodan
Seems there was some evidence, since they were ordered to destroy it. One is not ordered to destroy things that don’t exist, as a general rule. And nobody suggests that these worthies actually received any money personally, but that the money was used to support their election.
Props for bringing this up Terr.
As I read it, the article says that prosecutors claimed that Walker twisted arms and pushed donors to contribute to the Wisconsin Club for Growth. The defense didn’t deny that, but noted that Walker did not technically become a candidate until 4/9/2012, so his arm twisting before that date was legal. The Wisconsin Supreme court voted 4-2 in favor of the defense. Many of the judges were themselves beneficiaries of Wisconsin Club for Growth Cash: none of them recused themselves, raising eyebrows among sober and fair minded observers. [1]
This is the sort of thing we have courts for. I support the investigation. I accept the decision by the court. If you don’t want to get investigated, don’t skirt the edges of the law. For Walker to encourage donors to give to shady third party groups that supported his campaign is an example of sleaze innovation: I expect both parties to do the same moving forwards. That’s the ratchet effect at work.
[1] (Barroom carousers were divided.)
Yawn.
You guys keep desperately trying. It’s fun to watch.
Updating:
Wisconsin added just 11,590 private sector jobs in 2016, good for a growth rate of 0.5 percent according to data released Friday by the Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development. By contrast, Minnesota added 15,000 jobs in just April 2017.
Since Walker came to office in 2011, Wisconsin has added 179,820 jobs, still short of the 250,000 he originally promised to create during his first term which ended in 2014.
For three straight years Wisconsin has ranked dead lastnationally in startup activity.
If one includes sales and property taxes, people with incomes of over $400K pay, on average, state and local taxes of 6.2% of income, the lowest overall rate in the state. By contrast, people earning between $38K and $91K pay 10.2% and people earning under $22K pay 8.9%. link And this will get worse if the slightly progressive income tax is turned into a flat tax as has been proposed in the Party of Putin controlled state legislature.
Oh, and then there are the social issues. For example, a background check to get a permit to sing at the Capitol is required, but not to buy an assault rifle at a gun show. Drug testing for people on disability, required, but not to buy a weapon of mass murder.
With all those things, plus the corruption of Walker’s economic development agency, and his miserable failure on the national stage, one would think he’d pause before seeking re-election in 2018. Nope. He’ll run. And with the WOW counties behind him and the harshest voter suppression laws in the country, he just might win again.
That seems like a funny comparison. If one compares apples to apples -
Cite. So by one measure, Wisconsin added two hundred jobs less than Minnesota, and by another two thousand more. Is the idea that Walker is a bad governor because Wisconsin is doing almost as well, or perhaps somewhat better, than Minnesota during April?
Regards,
Shodan
If you want us to take you seriously, you’ll have to lay off the unhelpful rhetoric, and also learn what “assault rifle” actually means.
(Minnesota) has added 268,000 jobs since January 2011.
So almost 90,000 more than Wisconsin over the same period.
Neighboring states with similar demographics. Wisconsin 100% Republican, Minnesota mixed government. Minnesota has also had fewer budget problems than Wisconsin in recent years.
More cherry-picking.
On the bright side, Walker can’t possibly be re-elected, and will soon be indicted, convicted, and sent to prison.
And yes, Virginia - there is a Santa Claus.
Regards,
Shodan
Am I missing something? That article doesn’t seem to mention Wisconsin at all.
You’re not missing anything - I did. I forgot to cite.
It’s here.
Sorry - I was distracted by actual work.
Regards,
Shodan
It looks like this thread is relevant again. Recent polls show Scott Walker and his Democratic challenger Tony Evers in a tight race, with Evers having a slight lead. Fivethirtyeight.com’s governor’s race forecast lists Wisconsin as “lean D”, giving Evers a 5 in 8 chance and Walker a 3 in 8 chance of winning the election.
However, Nate Silver writes
Of note: Four former Walker administration officials have come out in opposition of his re-election.
This again? :dubious: Seriously? :rolleyes:
I sell so called “assault weap:rolleyes:ns” at gun shows and am required to conduct a background check on everyone I sell to. As are all the other dealers I know.
Unlicensed sellers actually sell very few guns. Because they don’t have an FFL they can’t buy wholesale and there isn’t much profit involved for them. I see very, very few unlicensed dealers at gun shows. And the ones I do occasionally see are mostly selling parts, magazines, and old or antique firearms.
As for the governors race, it seems to me the polls are almost at the same place they were 4 years ago…when Walker won!
Walker has outright lied about his position on requiring insurance companies to cover preexisting conditions at a reasonable price. He has ordered his state attorney general to sue in federal court to end the ACA including the preexisting conditions requirement and at the same time has said in his ads no one with such a condition would lose coverage.
The “Scottholes” campaign blaming Walker for poor highway maintenance has been at least somewhat effective.
As usual, the Kochs are pouring in tens of millions to prop up Walker. Maybe this time it won’t work.
Walker now running lots of ads on Minneapolis television. That’s a sign of desperation. It is far more expensive to use the Minneapolis TV market to reach their voters, not very many of which are even within the reach of those ads.
Does indicate they have a crap ton of money if they are willing to do that. They might even have more money than they know how to spend.
Posters responding to earlier posts should check the dates.
Posts 1-407 are all over three years old.
Posts 408-414 are nearly a year and a half old.
Only posts 415+ are current.
This was written by another poster on a Wisconsin board. Guy (or Gal) was a thirty year Wisconsin state employee.
(Note: LSD - Was Lee Dreyfus who was governor from the late 70’s into the 80’s)