Why are you afraid of a liberal court ignoring the Second Amendment? The biggest attack against the Second Amendment in our nation’s history was made by Ronald Reagan.
This would be an upset of the century. Its not going to happen. A better question is what happens if Trump gets 60 votes for his agenda.
Seriously debatable, given that in many states gay people can still be fired for being gay, can be denied housing for being gay, and can otherwise be denied a whole slew of rights due entirely to their sexual orientation, AND given the large number of Republicans who have expressed opinions similar to Moore’s.
On another note: are you fine with Moore’s repeated deliberate violations of the US Constitution? With the list of judicial ethical violations of which he was found guilty? His repeated actions and statements to promote the view that religious views (specifically HIS religious views) should be allowed to pre-empt the law of the land? Do you think those are fit views for someone aspiring to be a lawmaker to hold?
Right now, PredictIt has Doug Jones with a higher likelihood (around 11%) of beating Moore than the Republicans of getting 60 votes in 2018 (around 8%). If you think that’s wrong, you could make some money.
Someone should start a thread on that topic. I know I’d participate.
Could you explain the science behind this? :smack:
The chances of that happening are extremely low. But non-zero.
And you think the odds of gay people being arrested for being gay - something which happens in other countries and which more than one Republican politician has called for in America - is remotely comparable to an event that you’d have to wait 10[sup]80[/sup] the age of the universe to have occur, simply because both numbers are “non-zero”?
In the US? Zero.
Uh-huh. In what timeframe?
That’s nonsense. All it takes is one bigoted cop, and one asshole judge. A bigoted cop arrests someone who is gay for no good reason and makes up something else (loitering, jaywalking, disorderly conduct, etc.) and an asshole judge then backs him up because the asshole judge wants to stick it to the gays.
Do you really think there’s zero chance that this could happen? Roy Moore was a judge already, for God’s sake! You think no cops in Alabama (or elsewhere) ever arrested a gay person for no reason other than that they’re gay?
That’s not the same thing. You saying the justice system can be corrupt in some places some time? Wow, now THAT’s a revelation. You just blew my mind.
Supporting bigoted Senators legitimizes and assists that sort of corruption. It makes it more likely other bigoted judges will be elected, and they’ll back up bigoted cops. Putting bigots in power assists bigotry.
You are assisting bigotry. Please stop assisting bigotry.
Now get enough Roy Moores together in a deep red state - say, Alabama or Oklahoma - and fill the legislature with them. Laws get passed.
Sure, there’d be challenges by the ACLU and others and the laws would probably eventually fail to pass muster in the courts but you’d still have a period of gay people being legally locked up. While still unlikely, this is a far cry from “zero probability” and a helluva lot more probable than your other example.
All you’re doing is saying “It can’t happen here”… in a country where the President recently praised neo-Nazis.
A tiny tiny probability is a tiny tiny probability.
That’s a huge exaggeration that really doesn’t help your argument.
Great point. The fact that there is no longer any deal-breakers for conservative voters is alarming.
Many non-hateful Germans in the 1930s had your attitude about anti-semitism. They were willing to support an anti-semitic politician for other reasons.
Maybe we should learn from them, and support of hateful policies should be anathema? Even if the chances are small that it could get further, if we make sure to not support hateful politicians, then those chances go to zero. Why not help make those chances zero instead of non-zero?
Trump is not anti-semitic. Neither is Moore.
Moore is anti-gay, very clearly, as well as anti-Muslim (he doesn’t think Muslims should be allowed to be in Congress, which also makes him anti-first-Amendment). Gay people (and Muslim Americans) aren’t any less worthy of their fellow citizen’s protection as Jews.