Who would win in a battle between the Silver Surfer and Thir?
The Silver Surfer has cosmic power, but Thor is a diety/god. The obvious answer seems to be the power of the universe against one who created the universe. But if Thor was a diety/god, why did he fight puny adversaries? The Silver Surfer fought some really powerful bad guys.
How would Thor or the Silver Surfer win the battle?
If the Silver Surfer or Thor isn’t the strongest superhero, who is?
I know this question is not academic, but we’ve all debated similar topics at some point in our lives. This happens to be a hot topic at the water cooler. I need your help.
I vaguely recall a Thor vs SS battle occuring at least once. The on I recall had Loki tricking SS into calling Thor out, but there was no definitive victory. One or both of them figured out that it was a trick. Based solely on the ways I’ve seen the two characters written, Silver Surfer would win, IMHO.
On the other hand, the winner will really be whoever the writer(s) decide will win.
Silver Surfer #4 (the old series) pitted Norrin add against the big blonde. I can’t recall who won, but Thor is a God, after all. The SS is a bald guy in Saran Wrap. My money’s on Thor.
Hold on here. I mean Thor isn’t really the Thor, according to my Marvel Comics Collector Cards (yeah, I know). Being Thor is apparently some kind of franchise gig.
The soul of the Norse god Thor was “spliced” with the spirit of… get this… an architect named Eric Masterson. The god Thor himself was banished for killing Loki and Eric the architect (that’s a Python sketch isn’t it?) became “Earth’s exclusive embodiment of the Mighty Thor[sup]TM[/sup]”
So we really have is a rather powerful blonde guy who talks funny and can identify load-bearing walls.
If he’s sooo powerful, why was he a lowly Avenger? He was hanging out with fourth-tier superheros like Tigra and Hawkeye. If I was truly powerful, I wouldn’t be hanging out with archers, even if they were really really good.
SS on the other hand was made powerful by Galactus, a guy who’s been around long enough to see universes die and be born anew. And he eats planets.
They both have gone up against some real heavies. Galactus, Thanos, Mephisto, Destroyer. So it’s gonna be a close one, regardless.
You say god vs. Saran Wrap (don’t you mean Reynold’s Wrap?), I say Celestial Avatar vs. I.M. Pei in a cape.
If the battle is on earth or in Asgard I’d go with Thor. If it was in the depths of space I’m bettin’ on the surfer dude. Plus if Thor mentioned SS’s dead girlfriend, I’d expect a decisive and ugly SS victory.
Thor is not “God”, or even really a god. He’s an Asgaardian, which in Marvel are more like a race of superhumans than gods, in a lot of ways. He had nothing to do with creation, or anything like that
Silver Surfer wields the power cosmic. He can wipe out whole intergalactic armadas with a stray thought, if he should choose. He is almost equal in power to the cosmic beings: Galactus, Eternity, Destiny, Chaos, etc.
Wow, im so glad someone actually asked a decent question around here for once. So here goes…Galactus is/was the oldest and nearly the most powerful entity in the marvel multiverse. He was actually part of the multiverse itself and could not die without everything going down with him. Well, last summer ('99), he “died” (kinda), and alot was revealed. The Surfer had actually been more powerful than Galactus all along. Galactus created him that way because he knew that one day he would go crazy and he would need to be stopped. Hence: Silver Surfer is the most powerful character in the marvel universe (even if he doesnt even know it or fully utilize it.) Needless to say, he would have a field day with old Goldilocks.
P.S. - I have well over 100 Thor comics and i think his current series is absolutely great so dont think im biased towards old surfy-poo (even though i am =P).
You’re right Kat, the Thor vs. SS battle was also archived in “Marvel’s Greatest Battles” (I don’t recall which compilation # but it was one of the early ones for sure). And, yeah, it was Loki who tricked SS into it. The battle was a draw, with both heroes sensing the vague nobility of the other at the end, but it bears mentioning that SS was deprived of his surfboard for most of the battle.
I’d have to agree that SS has the edge. Not just because he’s the child of uber-lord Galactus, and not just because he can fly through stars unscathed, but because he’s just plain cooler. He’s a combination of outer-worldliness, surfer-hipness, and metallic nudity. He makes for better graphics and storylines because he flies through space. He shoots “the power cosmic” from his fingertips, which let’s face it is more exciting than some dumb 'ol hammer.
If Thor and SS had to fight to the death, SS would win because the execs at Marvel would rather kill off anachronistic and unhip Thor than a sweet, subplot-dense franchise like SS.
Ding Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner. The answer to the General Question “Who would win between two fictional characters?” is “Whoever the writers choose.”
IIRC the was a SS issue a year or two ago where the SS goes far underground because the “senses” some remnant of power and meets a mysterious being that can control his board and speaks of Galactus like he’s just the latest kid on the block.
Anyone remember this issue and who the being was or where the story line went?
What?! What happened to Doctor What’s-his-face, the guy with the cane who turns into turns into Thor by tapping his cane against the ground (said cane then turning into Mjollnir)?
Stan Lee works for DC now. Marvel’s new Editor in Chief is Joe Quesada.
**Because it was the seventies. **
It was the sixties.
What?! What happened to Doctor What’s-his-face, the guy with the cane who turns into turns into Thor by tapping his cane against the ground (said cane then turning into Mjollnir)?
That was Dr. Donald Blake, Thor’s first alter ego. Eric Masterson is old hat too though. Now its paramedic Jake Olson.
Regardless though, the Surfer wins hands down, no arguments. By the way, is anyone reading the “Maximum Security” storyline thats going on right now? The last issue has been delayed the last two weeks but it looks like Norrin Radd is going to have to step up and save the rest of those saps once again.
I think they’re pretty evenly matched but in a fight I would give Thor the edge. He’s a warrior born and loves to fight. He also has a cool enchanted hammer to bonk the Surfer with.
Have at thee!
By the way, IIRC, Eric Masterson is dead. Odin was going to let him go to Valhalla but Eric opted for heaven…or something. Given the nature of comics I suppose he may be alive again.
Geez (or “Thor”), you stop reading comics for a couple of decades and you get all out of touch.
At the time Thor was clearly the more powerful of the two – the Surfer couldn’t even break out of the barrier Galactus had put up around the earth to hem him in. Thor’s been more limited since, apparently, but back then he clearly WAS the Asgardian god. See Thor #59-60 for confirmation. Ain’t my fault if they decided to rewrite the story line.
“Saran Wrap” is right. I was semiquoting Marvel’s self-parody comic “Not Brand Ecch”, which parodied Silver Surfer #1, turning Galactus’line “Prepare to be transformed!” into “Prepare to be Saran Wrapped!”. And the SS looked it, too. Although Jack Kirby and more recent artists conveyed the notion of a man coated in silver – kinda like a lifesize second-place Oscar® – John Buscema’s version looked white, like a buffed-up Casper the Ghost. Saran Wrap, rather than Reynolds Wrap.
Actually the surfer DID break out of the barrier Galactus put up for him (see the Incredible Hulk #250), which is way more than Thor could ever do against the power of old Highpockets.
Sure, there have been some so-so Avengers, but one of the main reasons Thor is with them is Captain America. Cap is the kind of guy Thor just has to hang with. As far as I know, he’s the only human ever to be able to lift Mjolnir (He just picked it up and casually tossed it to Thor.). I think that puts the total of those worthy of the hammer at Thor, Beta Ray Bill, Odin, and Captain America.
Still, the Surfer would win on power alone. However, a good comic writer can set up circumstances that could throw the battle either way.
Thor was an Avenger before Cap was. The original lineup was Thor, Hulk, Giant-Man, Wasp, and Iron-Man. They teamed up to battle Loki. Cap came along later after Namor accidentally unfroze him after getting his ass kicked by the Avengers.
Wonder Woman lifted it. Im pretty sure i could think of a few others that have lifted it too but i just woke up and i have a killer headache.
… but I just wanted to mention that in one issue of the old “What If” monthly series, Rogue picks up thor’s hammer
and ends up becoming the “new” Thor (apparently Odin won’t let Thor just be himself :p). Graned, that’s not technically
“in continuity”… but if you can bring up Wonder Woman, then Rogue should count, too.
