The “natural beef flavoring” is hydrolyzed wheat and milk proteins.
http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2014/07/17/what-exactly-is-in-mcdonalds-french-fries/
Turns out you’re not representing your cite accurately:
From McDonalds
Note that it CONTAINS wheat and milk, not IS wheat and milk. Does your car contain gas? Is your car gas?
You’re misrepresenting the situation at McDonalds. Why did you say that their fries contain beef tallow? That hasn’t been true for many years.
The hydrolyzed wheat and milk proteins have amino acids that taste “like” beef.
They can’t “certify” that their food is vegetarian because they don’t have a reasonable way to prevent cross contamination in their food prep area.
Well, that will at least disqualify them from being vegan.
Correct, which McDonalds openly admits on their website.
I concede that there’s no evidence they contain beef tallow now. On the rest of what I said, I’m correct and you’re wrong :).
Uh…what other kind is there?
Staight from the clown’s mouth:
Natural beef flavoring contains beef. In terribly small amounts, to be sure, but beef nonetheless.
Cite?
McDonalds says that they use wheat and milk to provide the “beef” flavor. Much like chefs use mushrooms to provide a “beefy” flavor.
In the quote from McDonald’s, what is the point of the word “also” under your interpretation?
Yes, hence my saying I’d avoid it if I were to keep vegetarian. (They admit both that they cannot guarantee their food being vegetarian or vegan.)
The curious thing about this is there was a lawsuit years back concerning Hindus and McDonald’s fries. As you may know, Hindus traditionally do not eat beef, but they are lacto-vegetarian. If there was only milk-derived product in the fry oil, I don’t understand why McDonald’s had to settle this lawsuit rather than admit, guys, it’s just milk. (Or perhaps things have changed again in the past 10 years or so).
I always piss someone off when I point this out, but…
There are different types and degrees of vegetarianism. they range from eating less meat (or cutting out red meat but allowing the occasional fish or fowl) to avoiding anything that comes from an animal. There are gradations in between, people drawing the line at eggs or dairy. Vegans would like to define other people’s vegetarian experience, and some snake handlers would like to decide who is a “real” Christian. Neither group has my sympathy.
Boca Burgers have fun sayings printed on their wrappers. My favorite is “It’s 50% better to be a vegetarian half the time than to be a meat eater 100% of the time.” Wise words.
Citation was provided. If somehow you choose to interpret it as saying that there is no beef in “natural beef flavor,” I certainly will not attempt to dissuade you.
Check that; since I happen to have a search window still open, here ya go. FromMay 3, 2014:
The question “Can vegetarians eat beef broth” is much like the questions “Can Jews eat pork?” or “Can Catholics use birth control?” or “Can Muslims smoke?”
The correct answer is, “They’re not SUPPOSED to, but some do.”
Um… I’ve never heard a requirement that the plants a vegetarian eats have to be vegetarian themselves. In fact, some plants really seem to enjoy a properly aged manure.
Smoking was the national pastime in Iraq when I was there. Literally everybody smoked cigarettes. Ever heard of hookahs?
I think they’re not supposed to smoke during the day during Ramadan, but I met plenty of Iraqis who said “I’m sick”, and therefore Ramadan’s smoking commandments magically didn’t apply to them.
Okay, thanks for that info, now what the hell is bullion?
Precious metals in ingot or bar form, normally. I think you mean bouillon, which is a type of spiced stock.
Can vegetarians eat those? Iron ingots may contain iron molecules originally contained in hemoglobin or myoglobin.