Can we have a new rule in GD

Inspired by this thread, but it’s a regular problem.

A few questions about the Christian heaven

It starts okay with a friendly little discussion about the nature of heaven. Some different viewpoints, but everyone played nice. Then later an atheist arrived and the whole tone changed. So, he doesn’t believe in God or heaven, and feels the need to wreck the discussions of those with a different opinion.

It seems to me that this sort of behaviour should be forbidden. In a discussion about the nature of heaven, participants should accept, arguendo, that heaven is real. To attack the basic premise is Bering A Jerk, and should be subject to moderator action. Anyone wishing to say that heaven does not exist at all should start their own thread for it.

Can we have an actual rule for this, please.

Did it get reported? I was in that thread, but haven’t been back to it in a bit. To me, it’s threadshitting, and is worth at least a mod note (in my opinion only). They’re usually pretty good about smacking someone down when they do that. This may have just slipped through the cracks.

You want a rule barring atheists from sharing their views in a thread where the OP closes the first post with:

He wasnt ‘sharing his views’. He was snarking and derailing the conversation. Two seperate things.

Was he snarking and derailing the conversation in some new way not covered by the rules we already have against those very things?

Atheists are welcome to share their views … in their own threads. I’m perfectly happy if he wants to start a thread saying God, or Heaven doesn’t exist.

What I object to is to him disrupting a discussion about the nature of heaven.

See the difference?

Perhaps not. Hence me calling for a new and specific rule about it.

Maybe not. Blame the mods. But his posts werent intended to nor did they offer any conversation. The poster from SD while also an athiest at least was participating in the conversation. He made perfectly fine pit style posts.

In a thread where the OP says they welcome atheist views?

In all fairness, and I’m not offended at the comments of the OP, I can see his frustration… in all fairness… I do have an agenda and I do tend to push it, particularly on any topic of religion or class warfare.

I’m not sure if I am apologizing, I’m not refusing to apologize, I am admitting that his criticism is valid. I wasn’t intentionally trying to upset anyone. But my views and position are extreme, I can admit that.

It might just be me but I dont think you are the person he was posting about.

In the first place, I’m not complaining about one specific thread. I’m talking about the general need for a rule.

In the second place, the invitation was to come and discuss concepts of heaven, not for atheists to demand that people answer for Deuteronomy 21:18-21.

But you knew that already.

I will neither confirm nor deny that, but out of interest just who do you think I meant?

Yes, but how can you talk about whether or not god is just, without being able to entertain the idea that he might be unjust? And is not justice at the core of the topic of heaven?

Not really.

Perhaps you could link to the post that started the whole thing, to give an idea of what you mean? Threadshitting is already against the rules, so I don’t think you’d need a new one.

Nah, haven’t read the thread, your position just seemed odd on the face of it.

The fact is that GD’s tend to wander. And as Robert163 post immediately above tends to indicate, people pull broad strands together so threadshitting should only be sanctioned in clear cases.

Let me emphasize a point, people. I’m commenting on a general problem that has happened in many threads. I have no intention of pointing the finger at any specific poster, nor of dissecting any specific thread.

Then your answer is simply (as others have said) that there is already a rule against threadshitting which is what you seem to be complaining about. I’d need to see examples of behaviour that (a) isn’t threadshitting and (b) is in need of sanction nonetheless, in order to be convinced any new rule is required.

Exactly. If you look at the thread about Jews being the Chosen People, the poster who threadshat was moderated for said threadshitting.

Report the post in question, and if it’s threadshitting it’ll be taken care of. I don’t see the problem.