Next time you get pulled over for speeding tell the cop, “Yeah, I was speeding, but I’m not speeding now. I’m not even moving. Why take the time to give me a ticket when you can be out pulling over other speeders?” and see how that works out for you.
Is just scaring them back into Mexico the way to prevent illegals? I’m not from that area but maybe he wanted a name, a photo, any information the man might have on other illegals and the people helping them. Law enforcement after all.
Aside from that I agree the video shows he was not surrounded but if he retreats at a group throwing rocks won’t that just encourage that tactic to be used repeatedly? I assume they were just pissed or wanted him to release the man he had in custody. Is that what an officer is trained to do? Release your prisoner and retreat. Honestly, how would a Mexican officer respond to a group throwing rocks at him. Run Away? My point is that while rocks are not as lethal as bullets there can cause serious damage both to the officer and the man he had in custody. How much damage should an officer take before he can defend himself? I wish he had fired a few warning shots at whatever they were hiding behind.
Although we can’t know exactly what the boy was doing it looks in the video like the officer fired at the group throwing rocks. What do you honestly think the boy was doing there?
I’m very sorry a 15 year old was killed but if there are very few repercussions from even trying to cross the border and assaulting an officer how do we stem the tide at all? Certainly starting a shooting war is not the answer. You can’t realistically think US agents would be less likely to shoot if more were killed.
It sure seems to me there was a group throwing rocks which constitutes an attack.
What do you think he was doing there?
You wouldn’t happen to have any evidence that I’m a racist, would you? Or is it you’re still peeved at being proven dishonest?
Oh yes, the word gringo as defined by English speakers. What a joke. But seeing that another poster on this thread used the same exact word (post 171) and no one seemed to mind justs proves what a hypocrite you are, asshole.
One kid throwing rocks is not the same as a group throwing rocks. The officer was in danger of being injured or having his prisiner injured. Still, I wish he had fired a couple of warning rounds to scare them off.
Watch the video again. I think someone says “they hit him” which I took as a rock finding it’s mark.
So humans are rotten to each other regardless of race or color.
The video doesn’t show anyone throwing rocks so how you can say there was a “group”. And no I am not saying no one was throwing rocks.
As far as the dead boy, he happened to live about a block from the scene so why is it so strange for him to be in the area?
I’m going to make a wild guess that the officer had to use what he had on him at the time.
The voice in the video says “le dió, el estupido” after the third shot is heard meaning the BP agent shot the boy.
He’s not using the word the way you do. In this case, that poster was using the word similar to the way two Black Americans in, say, New York City might use the “N-word” to address each other. You use it as an insult.
And you’re complaining about a word in the English language being used with the English definition of that word on a site where the language used is English? That’s a hoot! Yes, that particular word is now considered an English word, and has been for quite some time. I seem to recall another poster or two explaining that to you.
So, now you’ve called me a racist, an asshole, and a hypocrite. Given your penchant for dishonesty, I’m not surprised you missed on all three. How’s baseball played in your area? Over here in Korea, three strikes is still an out.
By the way, from the link above, maybe you’d like to read a bit of information?
If a trespasser was showing little regard for my safety and willing to do me possibly severe bodily harm by throwing rocks at me and my only means of self defense was a gun, I might shoot. Hopefully to scare or wound rather than kill.
If a group of people were throwing rocks at me I’d be much more worried about my health because there’s a much higher chance of my being injured right?
It’s a tragedy, but I don’t see any reason for the officer to wait until he or his prisoner are really hurt before responding.
That’s eaxctly how people get hurt when a peaceful protest turns into violence. When people go from yelling to throwing shit someone gets hurt. In general the police try to use less lethal forms but this officer had to use what he had with him.
Whether you like it or not he and his prisoner were in physical danger. Back up was not a real answer.
It’s tragic that a 15 year old was killed but I seriously doubt the officer knew the age of any of the group attacking him.
Would it have been less tragic if a 21 year old was killed?
are you interested in the truth at all? Look again, read the article. There was a group throwing rocks and the agent warned them to stop and back off.
I repeat, I wish he had fired a few warning shots to scare them but I think he had a right to defend himself agaisnt a threat to him and his prisoner.
How did the BP agent know he was a kid. He may not have been throwing rocks but he was with a roup that was right?
I watched it again and you are correct. It says “They are throwing rocks” indicating a group and **after **the shot they say “they hit him” so I put the two together. “They” proabaly means to the border patrol rather than the individeal officer.
From the reports coupled with the folks on the Mexican side saying “they are throwing rocks” isn’t that whats being said?
How do you know he lived a block away? I can buy a kid hanging there if he lives fairly close. I can’t understand a kid hanging there after BP shows up and people around him start throwing rocks at an armed officer with gun drawn.
The pause between the officer pointing his gun and the actual shot fits the story of him issuing a warning before firing.
I’ve already dealt with this in another response. Just showing up and scaring them back to Mexico seems like a pretty bad way to protect our borders.
He could have and maybe he should have , or as I’ve suggested , some warning shots to scare them off rather than trying to hit someone. I’m afraid retreating would only encourage projectile attacks in the future. Guidelines and procedures are great but we can’t completely tie the hands of officers from making a judgement call.
Still, it appears to me , since he had his weapon drawn and there was a pause , he did issue the warning reported although we can’t be sure. Why the hell would anyone throw rocks at a guy with a gun pointed at them?
I try not to jump to conclusions about anyone. We don’t know about the officer’s record or the boys. I’m very sorry the kid was killed but I’m not eager to blame an officer doing a difficult job. It’s a tragedy made up of a bunch of circumstances.
I’m pretty sure my kids will have both the common sense and the upbringing to know better than to fuck with men with guns, for starters. Didn’t you ungraciously bow out of this thread a while ago, anyways? Why did you come back? You must live on hatred; as much as people’s replies piss you off, you can’t stay away once you cop out. Get a life. It wasn’t your fucking kid. And if you have such a problem with America, remind us all again why the fuck you’re here?