Hey, sucka’s gotta know.
Well not exactly a “professor” type, but Triple H was known as the “Cerebral Assassin” for his ability to outthink those who opposed him.
I would only say to those who knock prowrestling (the same thing I say to those who knock baseball) - learn more about it before you make sweeping generalizations. These are athletes who train and work and take tremendous punishment and risks for our entertainment. I would guess 90% of the audience “gets it” and watches as I do, for the storylines and the matches themselves. There is an art and a talent to good prowrestling.
Some ideas for you :
Read either of Mick Foleys books. (Yeppers he wrote them himself.)
Rent “Beyond the Mat” and watch it. It shows how real the sport is.
My $.02.
- NM
Wow. Do you guys realize you just add more fuel to the “anti-wrestling” argument when you post shit like this?
Thanks though, I got a great laugh from how involved and deep these story lines were.
One note about those deep stories… they aren’t so much “complex” as they are really bad inside jokes.
BP
Who is “you guys”?
I only see one name next to that post.
Who do you think? Maybe the people arguing that wrestling is some kind of valuable mental entertainment.
BP
I point you specifically to Hibbins post.
Do tell, Perm.
Also, I notice in your profile that you like cars. You must be a slimy greasemonkey who lives in a trailor park and drives a towtruck and chews tobacco and wears a three-tier mullet.
Oh, what? you’re not? Hmm … generalizations have never failed me yet, I don’t understand?
I never stated that all fans were hillbillies… although I think a case could be made for the majority. We need someone to do a study on this.
I refuse to defend the point that I may or may not be a mullet-wearing individual. Yes I’m interested in cars among other things, but perhaps you should mention the rest of the profile?
copy/paste:
Location: West Lafayette, IN
Occupation: Student/Tech
Interests: Women, Sports, Reading, Cars, Computers, the usual…
I’ll let you make that decision.
BP
Rochambeau: A thinking man’s sport of strategy and ball-hitting.
Crunchy Frog, I thank you for inspiring that.
The mullet thing was called sarcasm, used to make a point – that being that I SHOULDN’T JUDGE YOU ON ONE THING THAT YOU HAVE AS AN INTEREST. Interesting concept, no?
And again, since you’ve ignored it twice now …
Please name examples of acceptable entertainment for “educated” people.
I haven’t ignored your question. I believe that a thinking person should be able to determine a wide array of entertainment on their own.
You seem to be taking this personally. Don’t.
I grew up in the middle of nowhere in Indiana… if you haven’t noticed, I very rarely see “Live from New York City, WWF!” The majority of shows I have noticed are places like Ft. Wayne, IN… or Wichita, KS. My point is, I have grown up around people who basically live WWF. I know a little more about it than you think I do.
I’ll leave you to determine what interests you should have. If you choose to make WWF your primary interest, there will be little you can do to change my mind about your background and lifestyle. If you read and correspond intelligently on this forum, you’ve gained quite a few points already… but I would still stare in amazement if you were to tell me that WWF was your favorite activity.
BP
But, if that array includes wrestling, then you’re going to assume they are a hillbilly. Gotcha.
I’m not trying to take this personally, but I must admit to getting a tad agitated with your generalizations.
My favorite activity? Not hardly. Activites that are better than the WWF for me:
spending time with loved ones and friends
reading (in some cases)
sex
team trivia
my softball league
playing with the dog
NFL Sunday
The Straight Dope
Just to name a few.
Now, if you’ll excuse me, I think my cousin Enos is stuck under the Camero in the front yard. That crazy critter, always gettin his self into a pickle. Hyuck! Gotta run.
And, just as an FYI – here’s the live schedule for the past two weeks of live WWF shows.
OCTOBER:
Wed 10
Thu 11
Fri 12
Sat 13 Atlantic City, New Jersey
Sun 14 New York, New York
Mon 15 Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Tue 16 Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Wed 17
Thu 18
Fri 19
Sat 20 Columbia, Missouri
Sun 21 St. Louis, Missouri
Mon 22 Kansas City, Missouri
Tue 23 Omaha, Nebraska
I don’t think it matters whether or not you like to watch WWF. The intelligence test comes in with how seriously you take it and whether or not you believe it is fake. All I.Q. tests could be summed up with:
WWF Wrestiling is (circle one):
completely fake
probably fake
maybe fake
probably real
completely real
WWF ruuuaah! Rrr!
Dale, you forgot one option:
-Fake, but a hell of a lot more real than people tend to think it is.
I echo what someone else here said: Read Mick Foley’s book.
Thanks for helping me make my point. Not that St. Louis is a “small town”, but there are plenty of young, lower-middle class, blue-collar males to choose from around towns such as this in the midwest. I believe it was generally agreed upon earlier in this thread that this is the type of person that is being marketed to.
Admittedly, I have a bias against this “entertainment”. I think soap operas are not a stimulating form of entertainment either… and this is like the male version of a soap opera, in my opinion. Like I said before, I grew up in an area where the vast majority of the population watched this stuff religiously. I have been given no reason to believe that rural Indiana’s WWF fans are NOT a very accurate sample of the overall population. If you want to argue that Indiana’s population is completely different than the rest of America’s WWF watching population, I would be compelled to hear it.
Sure, there were educated WWF fans from where I grew up (perhaps you or someone like you was one of them?), but I think Dale put it more clearly and concisely than I ever could. “How real do you think WWF is?”
BP
PS - Dale, you almost made me cry from laughter on the last option. 
So, would any of the WWF fans participating in this thread go in for actual arena combat? If pay-per-view was offering up two mean motherfuckers jabbing each other with gladii, would you watch? Let me make it easier: assume that the whole backstory thing is still in place, the characters are skilled and exciting, all that. There’s just sand on the floor to soak up the blood, and every now and then the loser does the mortal coil shuffle out of the ring.
Well, I’m also a big fan of UFC, and other shootfighting associations, if that answers your question.
Sun, October 14 – New York, New York.
They can’t be in NYC, LA and Chicago every night you know. I am not saying they don’t hit smaller towns, but they hit all the big ones, too. And could you notice them in the heartland because for every Los Angeles sized cities, there are 3 or 4 Omahas in the US?
I’ve stopped in Indiana exactly once, I spent the weekend in Bloomington at a friends place in 1993, so I certainly can’t claim to be an expert.
I’ve lived in (urban-leaning)suburban to urban areas my whole life – Pittsburgh, Atlanta, and suburbs of each. I’d wager that there are very few things about either of those places that are much like rural Indiana. Everyone I know who watches wrestling is a lot like me. Mid to late 20s, Smack dab in the middle of middle class, most are college educated, hold decent ($40-$70k jobs in the computer/technical field) and are smart, interesting people. I don’t typically like to hang out or associate with morons.
So, based on the descriptions you’ve given me, all the people I know of who are WWF fans are nothing at all like what you have portrayed.
Anecdotal? Yep. But remember that your impressions are exactly the same.
Ditto.