The line forms 'round back buddy.
Isn’t that called a Daisy Chain?
I was really surprised to read about battered women. All of these years I’ve been eating mine plain. Must have some relationship to poutine. 
Seems like the ideal solution to the pregnancy issue there.
While it’s no statistically valid sample, and with all due respect, I think the fact that you haven’t been ripped a new asshole in this thread is proof enough of Canadians’ mellowness.
Yeah, dude. We’re, like, totally pissed off, eh?
This is a statistic that seems shocking at first glance, but when you actually parse it, is totally unremarkable. Take it apart carefully, and think about what it’s actually saying; that half of all the women in Canada have experienced “an incident of physical violence” at some point in their entire lives, as defined by a self-reporting survey.
So if a couple of university students get into a fight in a bar over who spilled a drink on who, that counts towards this statistic. Note that they - quite deliberately - conflate serious sexual violence, such as rape, with minor altercations, like some chick pulling some other chick’s hair in a bar brawl.
Most of the other statistics are similarly “wow” if you don’t think about them very hard. “One to two women are killed by domestic partners every week” amounts to 50 to 100 murders every year in a country of 33 million people, making it, in relative terms, an extremely rare event.
It’s not that I’m suggesting violent crime isn’t a problem, but there’s no evidence that in Canada, women as opposed to men are unusually vulnerable to violence. It’s to be expected that an advocacy group will deliberately emphasize the seriousness of the problem they are paid to advocate about.
I’m finding this seriously disturbing. I got kicked in the shins by another girl in my third grade class, and I’m in the same boat as a girl who got viciously raped and assaulted?
I’m not sure about other cities, but in Toronto a while back there was a series of really effective ads for a women’s shelter–a woman wearing both very expensive jewelry and horrible bruises along her wrists and cheekbones, with the captions: “he loves me, he loves me not, he loves me, etc.” It’s an issue that’s there, and does get brought up, but I don’t think we’re worse than any other country in particular.
Well, no, because the statistic specifies violence at or after the age of 16, so unless you were one hell of a slow student, a third grade attack doesn’t count. But if it occurred in Grade 12, yes, within the definition of that statistic.
This is a perfect example of why claims of those sort need to be carefully parsed. Statistics that conflate definitions or use large numbers to make emotional appeals are not to be trusted.
I could let her win once in a while, but honestly, she’s got to learn how to play properly.
I think the batter tenderizes them and gives their exterior a crunchy texture when fried.
Wait, what? Rape’s about getting sex, now? I thought it was meant to be about power and humiliation.
This is so confusing. 
These two statistics are completely meaningless by themselves. Some useful statistics would be the same things given as percentages of the total (or better yet, total female) population of Canada. Then we could compare and contrast to other countries, and start to understand what these numbers mean. As stated, they mean nothing.
This lazy stats reporting makes me suspect that whoever wrote the linked page is either a little stupid or a little dishonest.
It wasn’t “in their entire lives”, it’s “since the age of 16”.
I don’t really know much about the risk factors for domestic violence (now called “Intimate Partner Violence” by the CDC) in the U.S., so I looked at the CDC’s website and found their fact sheet which states
Risk factors for perpetration:
- Using drugs or alcohol, especially drinking heavily
- Seeing or being a victim of violence as a child
- Not having a job, which can cause feelings of stress
Well, DUH.
People you know are much more likely to murder you than people you don’t.
They invariably have motive, means, and opportunity that a perfect stranger does not.
Next up- 9 of 10 burglaries happen in or near THE VICTIM’S OWN HOME!!!
That’s it. You’ve finally done it. I laughed at this one. I am officially going to Hell. Now where can I find some pretty decorations for my handbasket?
Susan
Gonna be ridin’ in style!
Ahhh. :smack: In my defense, it was something like two-thirty in the morning…
Well, a country of 33 million that saw 605 homicides in 2006, according to Stats Canada.
From the report
Don’t take that “Half of Canadian women (51%) have experienced at least one incident of physical or sexual violence since the age of 16” statement too literally. This Statistics Canada study was only on women over 18, and did not include women from the Yukon, or the NWT, or who did not speak English or French well enough for the survey, or who did not own a phone. Since there tend to be higher levels of abuse against women who are younger, rural or northern, recent immigrants or aboriginal, or too poor to own a phone, one might expect even higher rates of abuse than reported in that study.
The next problem with the study is that the question of just constitutes physical or sexual violence. In fact, when one looks at the breakdown, the situation is not nearly as grave as the 51% cite suggests. For example, when looking at women who are or had once been married, the stats were:
Kicked, hit, beaten, choked, gun/knife, sexual assault: 16%
Pushed, shoved, slapped: 11%
Threats, something thrown: 2%
The study was made in 1993, when self-reporting was a fairly new way of conducting major studies on violence. In once sense, this made the study problematic, for it relied on the subjects being honest rather than relying on hospital, police and court records. In another sense, it made a significant step forward in determing the direction in which the real stats might lay, for abused people (particularly men) often do not report the abuse.
What is well worth reviewing is the ongoing series of studies and reports conducted by Statistics Canada into domestic violence (both male and female). It is riviting stuff, often very insightful, and usually leading one to even further questions: http://www.statcan.ca/bsolc/english/bsolc?catno=85-224-X&CHROPG=1#issue1998000
Muffin, while it’s true that the pollers probably didn’t design their targets properly, for your first paragraph see also RickJay’s posts 27 and 29.
That one time when I was in 11th grade and some chick from another school brought her friends over to beat me and my friends up because the guy she liked had been looking at me (I swear I didn’t even know who the hell the dude was until someone pointed him out) counts the same as, say, my grandfather trying to convince me to get into prostitution? Oh wait. Gramps wasn’t using violence, therefore he doesn’t count but the weird chick does…
A badly defined question, if I’ve ever seen one.