Canadope 2015: Battlestar Canadica

Per the Conservtive Party constitution and the bolding is mine:

The only reason you don’t know who’s going to vote is because you never went looking. As for the pay upgrade, I have no idea why this is a problem. The party needs a leader and the party happens to be in opposition. Besides, unless they tweak the by-laws, the interim leader can’t run for the job when it finally rolls around.

Who gives a shit? The interim leader is just that: interim.

Stop it with all the nonsensical bashing of the Conservatives who did an exemplary job of leading Canada through the worst financial crisis since the 1930s. We came through it better than any other G8 country.

It’s time to move on.

Ha ha ha ha ha!

Good thing that Harper’s gang did not succeed with their hopes to deregulate our banking industry before the sub-prime crisis. That had a LOT to do with how we weathered the storm. Paul Martiin’s delivery of many surpluses in a row also had a lot to do with the good financial shape the country was in before Harper took over.
Finally, Harper had a minority during the financial cirisis, and thank God for this, because he was all for bringing in austerity measures, which would have made the crisis worse. Thank God the opposition forced him to do otherwise.

Now of course Harper did some good things - some of the credit for how well we did can certainly be given to him. But to give him all of the credit is simply ludicrous at this point. It’s laughable.

I do agree with your last sentence though. I (along with most of the country) is very, VERY glad to be moving on.

Actually the last time this happened I guess would be after the 2011 election.

Jack Layton, while fighting cancer, kep his roll as Party Leader but suggested to his parliamentary caucus to have NyCole Turmel act in his stead. The caucus approved and following Layton’s death she became the official leader of the opposition. I assume she received an pay raise as will the newest Conservative Interim leader.

Since we’re moving on, I wont bother looking for your earlier outrage.

I guess you’re not up to date:

Unless of course you are currently posting from the caucus meeting itself, and know the results of whether or not Conservative senators will be voting on the interim leader.

No, I’m right. The Conservative Parliamentary Caucus votes. The fact that the definition of who sits in caucus is in flux based on newly introduced legislation is not my problem.

Even the Green’s deputy gets paid by the party to be the deputy (and yes, he works his ass off, and accounts for his MPP work and income separately from his party work and income).

Look, if you want the best folks possible to work in their respective political parties and if elected then sit in Parliament, rather than for the preponderance of people who lead parties or sit in Parliament to be there by virtue of their being independently wealthy, then you’re going to have to pay them a competitive rate, or else they will tend to earn their livings elsewhere.

Look about at what a top CEO/CFO, financier, doctor, judge, lawyer, professor earns. Serving in Parliament must be somewhat wage and benefits competitive if you want the best of those sorts of people to serve.

Many countries were running surpluses in the 1990s; it was a good decade all around. Martin and Chretien robbed EI, robbed public service funds and did whatever they could to make an appearance of balanced books.

Anyway, I voted for the Liberals back then, perhaps once, and liked what they were doing for a short period. I’m fine with our current situation and think Trudeau has picked a strong cabinet. I think we’ll still be the envy of G8 countries unless he does something ridiculously stupid.

I do think he’s too inexperienced, but that will obviously change; he’s surrounded by good people.

Looks like the CPC have chosen Rona “marijuana will kill your children” Ambrose as interim leader.

Good luck with that.

Well, yeah, and with creating provincial deficits that continue to this day. They balanced the federal budget largely by slashing health transfers.

You can’t just create money, and you’re not really any better off for the debt money being your responsibility as a resident of your province instead of as a resident of Canada.

Sure, and my buddy Mark did six months in Cyprus. That doesn’t mean he won the 1988 Nobel Peace Prize.

Once Trudeau wins the peace prize, will she get credit? :wink:

I think he’s entitled to say:
“I was with the United Nations Peacekeeping Forces, when they won a Nobel Prize”.

Without people quoting him out of context. That would be nice.

Trust me, there’s been a lot more than three minutes put into this. Each candidate would be trying to line up support in advance, and their supporters will have been doing some politicking as well, behind the scenes. The three minute statements are just the final, formal stage of the process.

ETA: as the National Post article you linked to also indicates, there’s been a lot of action behind the scenes.

No idea, but the general rule is that a leader who has led the party to a defeat and resigns the leadership, they tend to have lost influence.

So, Euphonious Polemic, how would you prefer the Conservative Party pick its interim leader, bearing in mind that they have to be ready to go in Parliament in a month’s time? And it’s a temporary position?

I think they should select them based upon who their parents were. It’s done that way with our head of state and our PM, so why not with the official opposition party?

Televised PPV cage match.

Then Trudeau would be both leader of the Liberals and interim leader of the Conservatives at the same time, unless that strip club guy who was convicted of assaulting his moll were to do better in a rematch with Trudeau than he did the first time.

So you’re prepared to bitch about a political party you don’t like, but have nothing of substance to offer.

Not bitching… More like pointing and shaking my head at this point.

The CPC is going to have to shed the “Nasty Party” tag that they have earned for the past 9 years.

They were heavily controlled by Harper and the PMO. Now they have a chance to change directions, hopefully without having another Authoritarian leader in charge, who tells everyone what to do.

There are hopeful signs. Recently Tony Clementhas said he’s not opposed to bringing back the long form census.

So basically, as the minister, the decision to scrap the census was not his. He was ordered to do it. “collectively”. Ha! There was no “collective” within the Harper Government.

And that’s another thing I’m thankful for. We Don’t have, and will not have, “The Trudeau Government”. And federal civil servants will not beORDERED to call it that. My God, that was pathetic when Harper attached his name to the Canadian Government, and ordered everyone to use his own name.

I’m on a train overlooking Lake Ontario at the moment, and having a beer and surfing the Dope. Quite peaceful.