I’m sure the OP is very “concerned” about the Obamas being canceled. I have no doubt he or she is an extremely ardent supporter of the Obama administration.
It’s not clear to me how not naming something after someone is canceling them. That said, naming a school in a majority Hispanic neighborhood (which is what I’ve gleaned from reading the descriptions of the articles) seems silly because he was pretty good at deporting Hispanics. And, he was never able to pass actual immigration reform, and his Dreamer initiative was partially shot down in the courts (IIRC).
Finally, I don’t know why you would name a school after him or anyone anyway. All it will do is piss off the right-wingers in 150 years when you decide to remove his name because he ate meat or smoked cigarettes or bombed Libya or whatever.
100% agree. As described in the credible links, this is a reasonable, measured response from an informed community. (That just happens to be my hometown, btw.) Only rightwing idiots in love with their favorite all-purpose grievance signal would see it as “canceling” anything.
Hey Octo, this isn’t about the content of the link. This is about a user too dumb or too trolling to create a decent Op at all. eenerms has been noted & warned not to start Ops with no content. This Op doesn’t count as content.
You’re not defending a fellow righty, you’re defending an idiot.
I’m surprised at the posters willing to click the link in the Op.
A school may retain its name long after the demographics of the area have changed. So I don’t think it’s that important that the school be given the name of a Hispanic person just because currently it’s in a majority Hispanic neighborhood. Surely given that Obama came from Chicago and became president, he’s worthy of being considered for the name? (Although it’s probably best to only name schools after dead people, and even only those who have been dead for a while. I think that used to be the rule for putting people on stamps.)
Did you mean to reply to me? I didn’t say they should name the school after a Hispanic person. It’s fine to consider Obama, I guess, but it’s also fine not to use that name if the local population objects.
I did finally read the ABC7 link and the Obamas aren’t being canceled. What a bullshit take on this from the OP. I’m not surprised, since the OP is a moronic, lying, disingenuous jerk.
I think they should name the high school Waukegan High School and then the middle school could be named Waukegan Middle School. That’s how it works in my current town. Where I used to live, it was Junior High School , and the high school was named after the road it was on, which itself wasn’t named after a person. I don’t think that road was a slave holder or a meat eater or whatever, so no muss, no fuss.
The high school is already named Waukegan High School. The town has several middle schools so it wouldn’t make sense to name one of them Waukegan Middle School.
Also, as someone else implied, I gotta question – if the school does not have that name, but rather it’s being proposed, how is that “cancelling”? Unless there is some sort of unspoken premise that “of course all minority communities will want to replace Jefferson and Lincoln and Washington with Obama and Huey Newton and Pedro Albizu”. There is always opposition to changing names of schools.
The OP is a very lame attempt of doing a “Ha. Ha!” at those who want to change namings away from the old historic figures.
(Of course, I’m one of those old fuddy-duddys who yearns for the tradition that you didn’t go around putting up monuments or naming things after people who were still alive and/or active in public life. But, different thread. And regarding the headlines, I already addressed “Latinx” in the thread about that.)
“Cancelling” has simply lost all meaning, with what little meaning it had to begin with anyway. It’s just a buzzword to elicit a Pavlovian outrage response. That’s all it is. Yesterday in my Facebook feed there was an actress (the AT&T woman, Lily, whom I somehow had not heard of until then) who stated she would cover up for ads and not appear full-bodied, because of creepy trolls and otherwise unwelcome comments on her body. One of the first responses? A “canceled” meme. Like, WTF does that mean? SHE decided to no longer show off her body and she’s “canceled”? Like, holy hell. Of course I did not respond, as no good could ever come of it, but, how many people fucking think before they repeat a meme or buzzword? (Rhetorical question.)
… like Joe Paterno and Bill Cosby, for instance. Too lazy to check, but I’ll bet there were schools or other public facilities named after them when they were golden public figures. Hell, maybe there should even be a moratorium of a few years after someone dies, in case some really nasty stuff comes up about them post mortem.
With a lot of figures it’s a form of currying favor with their fans and supporters (e.g. Paterno → alumni donors; and even more so in the political realm)
I have even in some cases actually heard it explicitly argued, to the effect of “we gotta name it/put up the monument for So-and-So NOW because if we wait, They are going to prevent it from ever happening.”
No, no, no. She’s the canceller! Woke ladies are canceling their naked bodies to punish 1A-protected sleazy messages. If you’ve been naked once you have to be naked always! It’s in the constitution!
The most disturbing part was the “canceled” meme came from an account with a woman’s name. But, yes, much of the discussion was, well, she showed off her body before, what does she expect?
