Can't turn a ho into a housewife, true or false?

I’ve just been reading some articles about Reggie Bush and Kim Kardashian, and what kept cropping up was her sex tape. Now I was thinking, in light of her wanting to marry this guy, or was thinking of doing so, people kept saying ‘can’t turn a ho into a housewife’

Does this hold some element of truth to it? I mean if it were me, and some woman I dated did a sex tape everyone saw, yeah I guess I’d be running a mile in the opposite direction.

The fact that she had sex on tape, does that make the fact that shes not a virgin too “real”? If i was dating a girl, and she told me she wasn’t a virgin, and I saw a tape to prove it, it wouldn’t bother me a bit.

As for “can’t turn a ho into a house wife,” that’s a bunch of bullshit. People have paradigm shifts in their lives all the time. Porn stars have happy families, soccer moms give hummers for blow – that’s life.

Course you can! You just add the letters usewife after the letters ho.

What do I win?

Your premise assumes that someone that had a sextape published is a “ho”. That’s something you would need everyone to agree with before you start worrying about transformations.

What an incredibly distasteful OP.

The OP assumes one must be either a ho or a housewife. I can proudly say that I am both. I’m a “ho” (shorthand for “sexual woman”, I guess.) or a “housewife” (mother, caretaker) when the individual situation demands it.

Turns out, we wimmin are pretty complicated, and not just in that “we chase after assholes and ignore nice guys” way.

I know a lot of ‘hos’ that are just hos because they think sleeping around will catch them a man. They think, if I sleep with Sean, he will like me. Then I will call his phone over and over till he breaks down and sees me regularly. If he does indeed decide to make her his girl, he will probably not have to worry too much about her sleeping around.

But if you have a sexually liberated girl that doesn’t believe in monogamy, then no…you aint gonna make her into no traditional housewife.

Well she did file a lawsuit to stop the publication of the sex tape with Ray J then she got a settlement for $5 million dollars with the distributor.

Well same for me, if she wasn’t a virgin, it’s not a big deal, but if it came to a sex tape, which millions had watched? Well I’ll be honest maybe it would bother me, and affect the relationship. It kind of depends on the circumstances, like for instance, ok if she made a sex tape with her ex b/f for their viewing pleasure, and when they split, he was an ass and showed everyone, ok I could kinda accept that. However, if she made the sex tape to get famous/attention whore, then no thanks.

Yeah some Porn stars do, I’ll agree, I think the wheels start coming off the minute they or anyone else in a similar position start to act like they have class or respectability for lack of better words. I think the hypocrisy is something to do with it.

You win the notsofunnyfirstjokeofthethread award. :smiley:

They’re not a problem :D, because they’re honest about their intentions, I’m more along the lines of the Kardashian types out there.

The OP doesn’t blanket women into those two categories, the OP is asking if the phrase asked had a grain of truth in it?

I read about Kim and picked up on this phrase, so I read a bit more, and the consensus was that no one who’s rich etc is gonna want to marry Kim because of her reputation, and because she’s nearing 30, she’s starting to think about settling down. If true I find it sad that even though she’s an attractive woman, she’s never gonna be able to escape her past as her past is on video tape, and watched by millions and in my eyes, it seems she wants respectability, but went the wrong way about to get it, and doesn’t have it.

The meaning of the phrase “Can’t turn a ho into a housewife” depends, of course, on what one means by “ho” and “housewife.”

The question might be, “Can a woman (or for that matter a man) who has had a history of having many casual sexual encounters with different partners, “settle down” and be happily faithful to one partner for life?”

Or it might be, “Can a woman who has previously viewed her sexuality as a commodity to be used for financial gain come to view it as a freely given expression of affection, bonding, and mutual pleasure?”

Both very interesting questions, but I don’t think they’re what the OP was getting at.

I believe the definitive points were elaborated back in 2000: (Lyrics w/ the link)
And when it all boils down you gonna find in the end
a bitch is a bitch, but a Dogg is a man’s best friend
So what you found you a hoe that you like
But you can’t make a hoe a housewife (wife)

I believe in that situation (the first time I had ever heard the phrasing: “You can’t make a ho into a housewife”), the protagonist is an actual pimp and is talking about marrying one of his hoes, only to realize in the end, she will still run around on him.

So in that sense, I believe yes, as a Pimp, one should not try to marry their hoes, and still try to be a Pimp. Nothing good will come of it.

How about men? Can a manslut turn into a good househusband? Cause you bet your ass I’d be running the other way.

Actually the only thing that would make me run immediately sexuality-wise is many many kids. I want no children and he is obviously way too fertile. RUN!

How many traditional housewives are left anyway? And what are you thinking of as a traditional housewife? Ol’ June in pearls and heels while vacuuming? A 1700’s housewife running her own small farm and producing most of the household needs, plus some income? The second one has a lot more history and tradition behind her than June does. But neither one fits most modern SAHMs (though come to think of it, I know a lot of women who keep bees, and a few who enjoy 50’s fashions).

I too find the OP distasteful. And I think many people change their lives over time, often ending up surprisingly far from where you’s expect.

I think a manslut who has had many many short-term but monogamous relationships/one-nighters is a more likely candidate for marital happiness than a manslut who habitually cheats.
I suspect the same is true for womensluts.

I have no idea what traditional house wife means, really, but I think people who use the term that titles the OP are meaning a stereotypical stay home, never hit the clubs in your short skirt, totally faithful and loyal houswife.

I don’t have a problem with the term ‘ho’. There are women that sleep around for male approval/money/catch a man/ low self esteem/publicity, whatever their bag is. There are men that sleep around for the exact same reasons, both straight and gay. That’s their thang, and I don’t knock them for it. ‘Ho’ is the lable we use for them in slang terms. I don’t think that every woman that sleeps around is a ho. I think lots of women are completely free sexually, and are respectable, awesome women that can be great ‘housewives’ if housewife = wife that lives in a house and is happy with her husband.

Why’s this distasteful? I’m merely asking whether there was any truth in the phrase used. I’m no woman hater, and don’t care for how promiscious they are, as long as they’re honest in their intentions, it’s no big deal.

My question is with the types who are ‘hos’ then want to settle and become respectable.

What’s wrong with me (as an example) not wanting to date a woman or marry a woman who had a sex tape watched by millions of people? So if that makes me distasteful whatever, then fine, I’m distasteful but you know, like women also plan for the future, so do some guys in relation of how someones past will affect it.

Let’s take an example:

Having a kid growing up then going college and finding out all their friends are watching their mom being banged by some dude on an old video tape, can’t really help their childs self esteem and confidence, right?

So why would some guy wanna associate with a woman like that for a long term relationship, to introduce the parents too, to have a wife and kids with? Which is what I was getting at with Kim Kardashian.

I think it’s perfectly fine for a man to not want to marry such a woman. I mean, there are loads of men who would bang Paris Hilton, but not too many who would marry them (well, none at current count, despite quite a few engagements.)

Ditto for women - I can’t imagine a lot of women wanting to marry Jude Law, for instance - well, dopey women maybe, but dude’s a dogg - bone him if you must, but don’t be thinking you’re going to make him settle down, 'cus that’s just dumb.

Regarding your phrasing in the OP - well I get where you got it from so I take no offence, but if I didn’t know I might think it was a touch rude…

I had a friend you might describe as a “ho” - she slept around indiscriminately and often - who has been happily married and monogamous for the past 14 years. So I guess it’s possible.

Well, look at Madonna. After Truth or Dare and her sexually explicit book, she decided to go for a more mature, stable, “credible diva” kind of thing. She still maintains a strong sexual persona, but she went from “shocking! bordering on porn!” (let’s say more along the lines of Lady Gaga’s outlandish press today) to married mother who is respected for her shrewd business sense, and work ethic, and rather unremarkable family life (current divorce notwithstanding).

You got a point, maybe it’s the sex tape thing which makes it different, but if you compare Madonna to Kim, Madonna played an act of sexual risque, without actually doing what Kim did, which was a full blown porno to elevate her social status and ‘pretend’ she didn’t know what she was doing. Unless I’m wrong, what makes them so different?

:confused: You believe that since she received a financial settlement for the publication of her sex tape that makes her a “ho”.

Is your girlfriend a “ho”, since you paid for her dinner after you had sex with her?