I’m pretty sure both of those were “frak” not “fuck.” I remember going back and listening to Baltar after someone made that claim in a thread. I’m not going to check again now, but it’s really easy to mishear one for the other when the dialog is fast.
No, I don’t think so. Frak only on these shows.
I just re-ran the episode, and you are right (The scene’s about at 11:40). Closed my eyes, put on the earbugs, and listened, imagining both words as I listened. The “fr” does go quickly, and the combination of the “ra” sounds a little like “uh”.
As well as the development of Tamara (though there wasn’t much this episode). Keeps us guessing as to who’s going to be responsible for the cylon uprising, or at least who does what.
Speculation isn’t, by definition, a spoiler - even if you guess correctly.
Any thoughts as to where they’re going with Amanda’s visions of her dead brother? All I can come up with is that Vergis is trying to Gaslight her as part of his revenge plot. Could be just the Kamala, or the STO sacramental joyweed, but there’s gotta be something to it.
A bit disappointed to see a current model car in the show (the Mercedes associated with the visions), instead of the circa-1960 ones they’ve been using so far.
Perhaps she will ask Daniel to make an avatar of him and put him into a robot body.
Ooh! I bet you’re right!
Yeah, that Mercedes really stood out, and I’m not someone who typically notices cars at all. I wonder if they figured they needed a car from a different timeframe than the “current” 1950s ones, but they didn’t want to have something from the 30s! (Cars have presumably been around on Caprica for more than 50 years, so it’s not a straight-line recapitulation of American car styles.)
The other thing that bugged me was the yellow cab. I’m ok with using real-life car models and clothing (though I appreciate the effort they’ve made to make them a little different, like the use of hats, gloves for mourning, out-of-date styles, etc.) I also recognize that one reason for it is a conscious decision to avoid the typical sci-fi “hardware” in order to keep the focus on the characters, not the gee-whiz technology. But they’ve done such a good job of making a world of subtle differences from our own that something like a stop sign or a yellow taxi - something that is a completely arbitrary artifact of our specific culture, that has no practical reason for being the way it is and can’t be chalked up even to a deep genetic predisposition for fashions and ideas to reoccur cyclically over human history (which is a central concept carried over from BSG) - it actually stands out more that it would if they had made it slightly different. A white, circular stop sign or a black London taxi would fit in better and be less jarring to the suspension of disbelief.
Clearly, their stop signs need to be square. Have the only thing we cut the corners off of be the only thing they don’t.
Or, the writers don’t want us to be distracted by the tech stuff in the typical sf way, being as how the show is about characters and plot. Just like BSG, the setup is “This is us, if we were put into a slightly different situation. We won’t even get into any differences that don’t matter to the story; they’ll be just like modern Earth”.
The hitch is that they set BSG in what is our present (Starbuck had a modern Hummer), so to set this show 50 or so years earlier, they needed 50-year-old cars and 50-year-old fashions. Using hovermobiles or Jetsons ships, and pulp-movie jumpsuits, in either show would simply have given in to the SF-is-tech-and-monsters stuff that infests the rest of SyFy’s schedule.
ETA: Maybe so about the brother-avatar idea - Amanda’s sick enough to ask, and Daniel’s sick enough to do it.
I don’t understand why Daniel hasn’t made one of himself. He’s been told that the Zoe avatar was made by Zoe, and fed as much personal information as possible to make her as real as possible. You’d think he’d jump all over the opportunity to download himself into a robot body.
Yes, I did mention that. All of this has been posted before. All of it will be posted again.
He doesn’t have Zoe’s code anymore. He does know how it’s done, but it’s a lot of work he hasn’t had the time for yet. His focus is on getting the Cylon project working, and fending off Vergis (which is part of the project too). Of course, now that he knows the key is to have an avatar in the MCP, he just might get cracking on recreating the code.
Amanda is still seeing something real - that’s a real car and a real person she sees, or so it seems, and somebody left a real picture of the bridge.
ETA: Alan, that’s why we love it. 
So Greystone doesn’t know how the MCP works. Can they reverse engineer it to at least make a copy (and stick another avatar in)?
I thought he’d done that already, but couldn’t get any to work other than “U-87”. If he couldn’t make his own MCP’s, Vergis wouldn’t be quite as pissed.
So ultimately all he needs to do is create a few more avatars and plug them into MCPs and press the green button?
So speculating ahead to the point where he figures all this out - is he going to use one avatar and copy it over and over and over (The Jango Fett Method), or is he going to create a program that creates artificial avatars based on the average person (the Precious Snowflake Method)?
Yes, I think that’s all he needs. But they won’t be copies no matter what he starts with, being analog in nature and involving, what, regenerative programming. Remember that technobabble the week before? The Mark I Toasters will all have their own personalities, as will all subsequent models down to the skinjobs.
We don’t “know” that. In BSG, Ron Moore showed us a “real” shiny Viper, and let Starbuck get in a few more frak-scenes, then she just went “poof”. Amanda may be seeing a “Head Bro”, be otherwise delusional, or having miraculous visions of Angelic/Demonic creatures.
Yeah - I think that even if you were to create 100 Daniel avatars, the minute you started their programs they’d organically evolve into slightly separate identities - like twins. I’m just trying to figure out if the nature of this “analog programming” involves creating a unique program for each toaster, or if you can copy one over and over.
She showed the picture to Clarice. It’s real.
As for loading avatars, apparently you can start with what you think are copies, but they won’t really be copies and will develop in their own way anyway. It may not matter what you start with as long as it’s complete enough to “think”.