Cast unwittingly into villainy

AAAaaarrgghh, I believe properly expresses my feelings on the matter! And what, may you ask, is the matter?

Sigh, have you ever been in a relationship (in this case a friendship, but that hardly matters) and you feel as if you may be getting jerked around, possibly taken advantage of…but you’re fairly patient and have an extremely high tolerance for bullshit.

In fact, said friend for rather awhile quit speaking to you, and always turned to your boyfriend for emotional support (clearly making him a crap boyfriend, for “harboring the enemy” as it were, but let’s not get started there.) And just as you were getting comfortable writing said friend out of your life (crap boyfriend too, but I digress)- the ricockulous bitch turns around and does something inexplicable like IM you- What do you do? In shock, you proceed to make entirely forgettable smalltalk until your wits congeal enough for you to say:

“WHAT THE FUCK- remember how we aren’t friends 'cause you’re psychotic and quit talking to me, and tried to thieve my boyfriend and you hate me???”

and she calmly responds with something along the lines of
“Well, I’m fine with you, and I haven’t hated you in a really long time blah blah,” essentially, I have such distance on the situation and I am such a grownup that I’m okay and yeah things got stupid, but I’m really past it all.

Which is all very well and good, but leaves you holding the bag- the bag full of questions like,

“So how am I supposed to take you screaming that I am the fairytale breaker, the shatterer of childhood dreams etc etc… was that just a moment of poor judgement for you?”

Now you get the villain hat- the person who can’t let bygones be bygones, fixated on the past to dwell there hopelessly forevermore while the aforementioned nutjob serenely carries on as if nothing ever happened! So to wrap up:

AAAAAaaaargh!! still captures the feeling pretty well- Anyhoo, if anybody can share stories of even crazier, stupider things that lead to MORE frustration, it would make me laugh- and surely I need laughs today!!!

In relaying the gist of this to a friend I think I summed it up perfectly a second ago-

Well, if you want the friendship, go out for coffee with the girl.

If you don’t, write it off and never be around for her. Or ask her to be around for you. No IMs, no phone calls, no e-mails. She’ll get the hint eventually. If she asks, say that she has fallen below your standards and you don’t want to be friends with her.

She can try to cast you as whatever she wants, what matters is what you are.

Reminds me of a scene from Beavis and Butthead, or really, just a line by Beavis

Oh yeah. uh. Sorry 'bout that. heh heh.

Sometimes there’s nothing you can do if someone chooses to dislike you. You may think their reasons for disliking you are idiotic - and you may be right - but there will be times that you just won’t be able to reason with that person.

I know it’s kind of a cold mindset, but you do have to train yourself to be able to shun someone out of your life. Cut your losses. It’s tragic when a friendship ends, but that’s part of the ebb and flow of the relationships that we create… we just have to learn to accept it, enjoy the good times we did[ have, and move on.

When Good Friends Go Badnext on Fox!

Had some really good long time friends (considered them family) that I had to walk away from last january. My wife, my therapist, my real friends were all telling me to stop putting up with the abuse. I guess that’s what it took to see it for what it was.

a> They used to be the types who would complain about other people’s kids being undisciplined. Then they had kids. Suddenly, any form of discipline was abuse. When I would suggest that they ‘control’ their kids (because they were hitting me or throwing major tantrums and objects) the parents would scream two things at me; “We’re not going to hit our kids” (no one is suggesting that, fuck head!) and “Shut up”.

b> their dogs were constantly allowed to bite/scratch/jump on me. They ignored me swearing at the dog to get the hell off me. Paid no attention, didn’t help me, NOTHING. But I simply push the dog away, and the wife screams at me for “kicking” the dog. This was getting to be happening about once every three times I visited their house. Visits got a whole lot less frequent.

A few months before the split, their smaller dog shoved itself into my crotch while I was sitting at the dinner table opposite the wife. Chomp, chomp, connect! I grabbed the dog’s head, pried loose the teeth and pushed it out of my crotch. It jumped backwards under the table and fell against the wife’s leg. Whereupon she lept backwards out of her chair (so that it fell over backwards and she was straddling it) and started screaming at me at the top of her lungs accusing me of kicking the dog. When I, shocked, told her that the dog had bit me in the groin, she started screaming that it was “your own damned fault, you know (dog from hell name) likes to chew on paper!” Why I didn’t call the police or walk out of them that night is a mystery to me.

c> When first child was 2.5 years old, I was over there when he threw a tantrum at 11:15pm; hit me, punched dad in the face, hit the dog, etc. I simply suggested “gee, why don’t you put him to bed” (big mistake). Hubby gives me a piffle/snort of derision type sound (their family favorite expression) and says “Oh, he’ll just cry”. I, still mistakenly thinking them rational human beings, have the unmitigated gall to say “So?”.

At this point, the world’s most self-righteous arrogant fucking BITCH!* gathers herself up to full height and tells me that they are parents. They know everything they need to know about being parents. I am a single man without children. Therefore I know nothing about children. Don’t ever tell us how to raise our children again!

That was Friday night. Monday morning, 10am. Hubby calls me at work (only the second time ever, because I discourage personal calls). First words out of his mouth are to tell me that he just got to work, three hours late. He didn’t get to sleep until after 1am because the child refused to go to bed. At this point I give him an earful about how they had just insulted me the previous friday night on this same subject, so I never wanted to hear another word out of him about how he was too fucking stupid to put a 2.5 year old to bed. Slam goes the phone.

d> At the very end, trying to get through their apparently growing vile attitude towards me (while they still professed me to be “family”), I sat down to have a careful conversation with the hubby. Told him how much it hurt me that they kept accusing me of kicking their dogs, and screaming that “we’re not going to hit our children” line. Told them of my own life history (I have permanent physical damage from the abuse I suffered as a child) and how I would never remotely suggest that they hit their children for any reason. Told hubby things I’ve only told my wife and my therapist. Told him I never wanted to hear that line again.

His reaction? “Piffle. We’re not going to hit our kids”.

FUCK YOU, YOU MONSTROUS ASSHOLE!!!

Since breaking bonds, I have heard from two fairly reliable sources that the bitch queen is telling people that I “routinely” hit their children and dogs and encouraged them to do the same.

  • This woman would never admit to error. However, If God itself came down and shoved evidence of her error in her face, her reaction would be that noise (see above) followed by “So what, who cares. It’s not important”, a smirk and a quick change of subject.

Just start spreading rumors that they let their kid drink alcohol. Get child-care down there really quick.

Chimera-
Thanks for the lift, not that I derive pleasure out of your personal tragedy, but that sound, that Piffle noise I think is the noise made by obnoxious people the world over, and regardless of the cirumstances seeing it in print makes me laugh!!

Too bad about your former friends bitchqueen 'n company: they’re not doing anyone favors by letting their kids/pets/etc turn bratty- on a lighter note, was bitchqueen in some way implying that your crotch is made of paper???
:eek:

Oh no, dear me. I should have clarified that.

I was stupid enough to put my NAPKIN in my lap while eating. Boy howdy, guess I was just begging to have their dog bite my penis, eh?

And gee, I didn’t even go into the tale about how their child punched me in the groin and mommy screamed at me TWICE, the second time when the child came at me again. She screamed “you just stepped into a Karate stance! That proves you intended to hurt my child!” (since when does a karate stance involve covering the groin with one hand while reaching out to stop the child with the other hand, backing up while going “whoa, whoa, WHOA!”?)

Sorry to hijack your thread Panache. Back to your story.

Sounds like this person is suffering from BPD (Borderline Personality Disorder, a misnomer), more accurately called Emotionally Unstable Personality Disorder. She has difficulty controlling her emotions. I know, because I have the same problem. The difference between her and me is that I was always horrified and ashamed of my improper outbursts.

(Sidebar: an estimated 5-10% suffer this problem)

She, on the other hand, takes the extremely self-centered approach (which I did as a younger man) of assuming that once she has been able to master her emotions, everyone else should just lighten up and forgive her. I used to say that my temper was like a firecracker; a loud bang, then it was over. Took me many years to understand why other people stayed angry with me for so long.

Your BF? He may be one of the extremely patient of long suffering types. Or he just had the hots for her and was willing to put up with the shit.

My advice is to keep your distance. Demand an apology, a sincere and well meaning one, and don’t back down or deal with her until you get one. Don’t be mean, just be firm. Don’t show your anger. Be calm. Show her that you were hurt and that she has made no efforts to apologize and change her behavior. She needs to show you that she is willing to make the effort to control herself in your presence. This is the only way that she is going to learn that her actions are inappropriate and that you aren’t going to tolerate that shit.

I know, because it’s worked on me.

thanks for the in-depth, now that i’ve calmed myself over aforementioned incident, i feel a bit whiny, sorry folks
:smack:
re: crap boyfriend, well, we don’t talk so much (being ex’s and all) and he was neither the long-suffering angelic type nor the crotch-driven oogler type, he had what is known as spineless male syndrome which is uncommonly prevalent in the species commonly reffered to as “nice guys.” not a terrible personality defect so long as you aren’t dating said spineless wimp.

re: crap friend? she apologized, i buy it, but i don’t trust her. c’est la fuckin’ vie- i’m sure we’ll be polite should fate or circumstance throw us together, all in all i think the moments of melodrama are ended- phew
thanks all for your support :slight_smile: