Catholic bashing

So now you’re claiming that Wally’s sig line was inaccurate? Or are you claiming that saying Hitler had a beard is ‘Hitler bashing’ (gee, what a low-down thing to say about the guy).

Hitler DID have a beard - he just kept it shaved off like a lot of other men.

I guess you don’t know about that shaving stuff yet.

The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best. - Henry Van Dyke

Once again, Konrad. I’ll do it more slowly this time.

The sig was TRUE. It was IRONIC. It was AMUSING.

You are behaving like a FUCKING TROLL.

To wit: you deliberately used inflammatory language and a very insulting manner toward Wally. Your prerogative. It’s the pit. Go for it. But you’re still going to look like a FUCKING TROLL.

Talk to me again when you learn some critical thinking, son.

xxoo
-andros-


“Listen Children Eternal Father Eternally One!” Exceptions? None!
-Doc Bronner

Okay, be honest, be brutal (like you wouldn’t, right?)…is it me or is Konrad as annoying as fiberglass insluation in your underwear?

True, this isn’t Great Debates, but there are still some generally accepted guidelines for discourse. I try to be tolerant, respectful and thoughtful, but Konrad just minces and evades, snipes and provokes. Am I missing something crucial or does Konrad have a brain-pan full of Farina, a heart filled with bile and the social finesse of a remora?

Communication doesn’t seem to be working. Can anyone make sense of him, or should he just be slowly trepanned with a lid of rusty tuna fish can?

Hitler’s beard!? Nah, NO one coudl be THAT dim and willfully fatuous…
Veb

Veb,

Konrad’s words are completely devoid of content.

Don’t waste your time looking for meaning. You won’t find any. It’s gibberish.

Ignore him. He might go away. We’ve given him far too much attention already.

This is probably the only way he can get somebody to talk to him.

Are you for real? I have yet to see you explain exactly how that is “Catholic bashing”. Again, unless you interpret any criticism of (fill-in-the-blank) to be (fill-in-the-blank) bashing.

Additionally, was this thread your first post ever on this board and was it posted without lurking? If not, did you really think Wally would not have been taken to task already if the Catholics on this MB found the sig to be “insulting” or “Catholic bashing”?


“The secret of life is, there ain’t no secret, and you don’t get your money back.”

First of all, you moron, I was using that as an example of why Neuro Trash Grrl’s posts were irrelevant. I wasn’t using it to say the .sig was wrong. Do you even read my posts before you respond?

Here, let me explain this to you a little more clearly, since obviously the concept of comparison is over your head.

Criticizing the pope for not allowing women priests has as much to do with the church’s character as saying Hitler had a beard has to do with Hitler’s character. In other words, it doesn’t have anything to do with it.

Second of all, it’s pretty sad how you people take this so seriously. As if by complaining about the .sig I am insulting you personally. You’d think I had coveted your ass or something.

Now isn’t it funny how you guys complain that I make personal attacks and don’t have any real arguments when that’s all YOU do? Out of the last 5 responses to me, all 5 have been pure insults. What a bunch of hypocrites. At least I try to explain myself instead of just insulting. Who’s acting childish here?

Oooh, Hitler had a beard but he shaved it. Gee, that’s not a sniping, annoying nit-pick, that’s grade A logic. Yeah, you guys are really great debaters.

Oh yeah, and no matter how much you call someone a troll it doesn’t make you any more right. Say it as many times as you want, it’s not going to suddenly make me say “Oh, you’re right. I’m a troll. Ignore all my arguments. Your abundant usage of the word ‘troll’ has clearly shown me why I’m wrong.”

For those who’ve not had the pleasure of reading some of Konrad’s posts in other threads, I’ve provided some links:
www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000198.html
www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000048.html
www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000138.html

Konrad has a history of not quite getting the point of what other people are saying or asking, and usually becomes belligerent and insulting when someone disagrees with him. Just thought I’d point out that this thread is typical, not a momentary aberration of an otherwise intelligent, well-mannered poster.

Konrad, there’s not much point in anyone trying to explain to you where you’ve gone wrong, because you just don’t understand. I don’t know if its a lack of reading comprehension skills or some mental dysfunction, but all efforts seem to be nothing but wasted bandwidth. Why waste time arguing with a brick wall?

Several posters have, indeed, had their behavior pointed out to them as ‘trollish’ and have mended their ways. Some just go away, but some undergo an ‘attitude adjustment’ and learn to act in a more reasonable and mature manner.

Unfortunately, you’re not one of them.

Why don’t you go over to the snopes Urban Legends board and irritate them for awhile?


The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best. - Henry Van Dyke

Okay, time for a Catholic to weigh in. I thought the .sig was hilarious! And it’s TRUE, for crying out loud!

Konrad, the pope not allowing women priests has EVERYTHING to do with the Church’s character. If the Pope woke up tomorrow and decided “You know, I was wrong. Time to have women priests,” we would! But he won’t, because the church will not change, and he is a product of that. The only place the Church’s character does not follow the pope’s character is MAYBE for American Catholics, who are generally more liberal than the rest of the world.

Just my opinion, since you claimed to want to see a real response…

Sigh . . .

I still don’t understand what the problem was. I don’t understand the OP. Konrad, to me it appeared like a personal attack on Wally. If it wasn’t, great, but you were the one who started the insulting language from your first post.

Next, I’m sorry you feel so hurt by our responses. But if you’ll re-read my last post, I never insulted you personally. I insulted your behavior and your (lack of)logic.

If I wanted to insult you personally, you’d know it, I assure you.

If you don’t want to be called a troll, maybe you should figure out the reasons for it and make an effort to change your posts. You might even try to incorporate some critical thinking.

-andros-


“Listen Children Eternal Father Eternally One!” Exceptions? None!
-Doc Bronner

Perhaps I was the only one to see the original .sig that started this whole thread as (intentionally?) ambiguous??

I read “According to the Pope, a woman can be a saint, but not a priest” as meaning either:

(as everyone is assuming) “…though a woman can be a saint, she cannot be a priest”

OR

(my interp.) “…although a woman can be a saint, a priest cannot”

As such, it struck me as a bit of tongue-in-cheek satire that did not offend me.

I haven’t tried it on my priest though. Maybe I will, and get her interpretation. :slight_smile:

I’ve had a change of heart. I want to retract all of the nasty things I’ve said about Konrad.

I think Konrad is actually a VERY sweet young man whom I would like to know a LOT better.

Here, Konnie, is a GREAT BIG LOVING HUG from little old me to little old you.

I hope we can become MUCH better friends now.

All forgiven, sweetcakes?


The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best. - Henry Van Dyke

Mostly, I just lurk, so I’m assuming I missed something. Another thread? Very puzzling turn of events.

Don’t mind me, I’ll just mosey along.


Why me?

Konrad:

“…ancestors”. There.

Sorry. Please forgive me. Your flaming was too much for me.

Oh, shit. Ignore my previous post.
Sometimes I’m a little slow on the uptake.
Good one, Ben. I think you’ve scared him off.


Why me?

Falcon: What I was talking about when I said the church’s character was that it has nothing to do with whether or not you consider the church to be an evil entity. It was in response to neuro trash grrrl’s post. Yes, the opposition to change has a lot to do with it but you took my words out of context.

Andros: Really? Show me exactly where in my first post I started hurling insults. I’d really like to know this because you seem to be in some sort of alternate reality. I even purposefully left out Wally’s name because I wasn’t trying to make it a personal attack. How much more neutral could I be?

Bendover: They scary thing is, I have no idea whether you’re being serious. I will assume you aren’t.
(ASIDE)

Now, I’d like say something to all of you. And you should avoid the urge to take it as an insult. It is a criticism but I’m not saying this to insult you.

I may be relatively young compared to most of you, but I have been using message boards for 8 years. That’s a long time in internet-years.

The problem here is that you guys couldn’t flame your way out of a paper bag. I’d understand it if you don’t want to argue over the whole .sig thing but at least if you’re going to insult someone do it properly.

This is not boxing! Just because you feel offended doesn’t mean you have to write back. You DO NOT get points for pointless “jabs”. If you’re going to flame, flame properly. THERE IS NO POINT in saying “Konrad, you are dumb”. The only insulting thing about that is that you’d think I’d actually find that insulting.

Seriously, there is no reason to post something that basically comes down to “I don’t like you”.

(END ASIDE)

So you bunch of pansies think that was a troll? It wasn’t, because in the old days we didn’t need to troll! A REAL man’s opinions were inflammatory enough that he didn’t need to paint a target on them. And I say man because in those days the only women using BBS’s had more balls than any three of you put together!

In fact the word troll wasn’t even used, except by sycophants and cat-molesters, because a REAL man didn’t need to point out to other REAL men when someone was trolling! It was assumed to be obvious.

This, “you’re a troll” whining is fucking pathetic! When WE wanted to flame someone we would call them a rat-fucking ass-biter, and that was even BEFORE they posted anything. In fact we would flame non-existent people just for the practical experience!

Wally: If I wanted to recreate the intellectual content of one of your posts I could go play with my own shit in the toilet you hypersensitive, incompetent and constantly-drooling cretin!

TVeblen: I’m sure that even if your mother had spent more of her immoral earnings on your education you still wouldn’t be able to compete intellectually with a pile of shit. And I don’t mean the comparatively (to you) bright cow shit they use to fertilise fields, I mean the regular shit-for-brains bird shit you find on your windshield. You are not even worth my time to insult.

At least E1Skeptic has an excuse. That ass-bandit has to restrain himself when flaming because he’s still on parole for those 17 convictions of buggery and doesn’t want to piss off his parole officer!

So unless the rest of you are on parole for any convictions for crimes against nature (and I get the feeling you are) you should be ashamed of your performance!

And speaking of performance, Bendover, if the boys at NAMBLA have anything to say about it, even your perverted love of all things scatological does little to offset your decidedly sub-standard sodomy.

AND THAT’S WHY I WASN’T FUCKING TROLLING!

And look Andros, I constructed a flame without once using the phrase “Fuck you”. Learn.

It worked, Konrad. I’m not insulted.

Oooh, Konrad, the way you use the term ‘REAL men’ sends DELICIOUS little shivers up and down my spine.

Would you care to explain to everyone just how you know this, sweetie pie? :wink:

But don’t worry, Konraddy, even though my feelings are terribly, terribly hurt, I won’t abandon you. I will scour the board for all of your posts, and defend you valiantly against those other rude, mean posters who say bad things about you. They just don’t understand what a dear, SENSITIVE boy you are.

So back off Wally, Konradipoo is MINE, ALL MINE :slight_smile: So there!


The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best. - Henry Van Dyke

LOL!

He’s yours, Ben.

Well–

I have very little respect for old Konrad here. As a matter of fact I think I made fun of him another thread. Wait, I KNOW I made fun of him in another thread.

But that was funny as hell.

Nothing like an absurdly exaggerated “in my day” story.

(you were joking, right?)

–John

Ben, he is all yours. The poor, misunderstood and maligned 'ittle boy is so upset he’s having a tantrum again. We’ve tried, oh how we have tried, but Little Konrad just can’t understand how to play nicely with others.

And Konrad, my mother was rarely immoral and most assuredly never made a dime from it. She did, however, wear combat boots.

THAT was supposed to be insulting? That was wit like a scalpel, flaying the victim to the bone?

Pathetic, just pathetic.

Veb