From the OP:
Bolding mine.
These are not privately funded schools. They are state funded schools. That’s what the fuss is about.
Well, the specific example that came to mind was the thing from a couple years ago in which Virginia textbooks contained lies about the Confederate army’s makeup, because for some reason I stumbled across an old article about that today. Apparently, in that case, it was the result of the textbook being written by someone completely unqualified who may well not have realized that the website of the Sons of Confederate Veterans’ website that she was reading was telling a politically-motivated lie.
But the most relevant current example would be the pervasive attempts to introduce biology textbooks that “teach the controversy” and tell politically-motivated lies about evolution, and the “disclaimers” some school systems have inserted into textbooks to fallaciously cast doubt on the theory of evolution.
But the UK doesn’t have the same sort of separation of church and state that the US does.
AFAICT from the OP’s linked article, the problem is not that a religious organization is pushing a religious issue in state-funded schools that are, after all, officially affiliated with that religious organization: rather, it’s that the issue runs afoul of restrictions on political indoctrination.
for a self-claimed lawyer you really are not all that great at this whole ‘reading’ thing are you?
I am of course coloured a bright shade of unsurprised that you are fine with privatised indoctrination of impressionable young minds in bigotry.
That would be pretty hard to achieve, short of sawing the Queen in half.
Unfortunately in the UK we still fund faith-based schools from the public purse. The curriculum they teach and the activities they engage in are heavily circumscribed by the National Curriculum (but which mandates a basic, Christian religious education).
They are most certainly not allowed to incite hatred and bigotry under the cloak of religion.
There has been an ongoing concerted attempt, funded by unknown sources, but generally accepted to be evangenlical american churches, to get creationist bullshit taught in schools.
But score one for Sane People here.
Richard Dawkins celebrates a victory over creationists
I was reminded of efforts to force *An Incovenient Truth *down the throats of every student in the country.
From wikipedia… “On the other hand, several reviews criticized the film on scientific and political grounds. Journalist Ronald Bailey argued in the libertarian magazine Reason that although “Gore gets [the science] more right than wrong,” he exaggerates the risks.[58] Global warming skeptics were vocally critical of the film, such as MIT physicist Richard S. Lindzen, who wrote in a June 26, 2006 op-ed in the Wall Street Journal that Gore was using a biased presentation to exploit the fears of the public for his own political gain.[59] Some reviewers were also skeptical of Gore’s intent, wondering whether he was setting himself for another Presidential run. Boston Globe writer Peter Canello criticized the “gauzy biographical material that seems to have been culled from old Gore campaign commercials.”[60] Phil Hall of Film Threat gave the film a negative review, saying “An Inconvenient Truth is something you rarely see in movies today: a blatant intellectual fraud.”[61]”
What a fucking tool you are!
First, I’m not a lawyer and have never claimed to be one.
Second, you claim I’m OK with something I explicitly said I was not OK with… in the very post you quoted!
Third, you accuse me of not being able to read?
And you are still wrong, what do the already mentioned professor at BYU says about it?
Incidentally, if you had paid attention, Richard Lindzen is one of the scientists that has lost respect for failing so often and using ideology to guide his pronouncements, he was also one of the very few scientists that did sign the WSJ sorry denier note full of demonstrated lies. Also, the opinion of a film critic is truly worthless here and finally bashing Gore does demonstrate who is using politics to deny the science.
Well, you have to admit that “I would be livid” is an anagram for “Bi dude I ill vow.” Clearly you’re okay with indoctrinating young minds with bigotry–you’re even subliminally pushing for people to take vows of ill-will towards them!
Oh, wait, for a minute there I was infected with the same bizzaro reasoning that seems to have afflicted What the … !!!. Sorry, I think I’m better now.
Fourth… Your post is so absurdly wrong that I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you thought you were responding to someone else. Read the post you quoted, check your database of usernames and self proclaimed lawyers and get back to me.
As for the OP, this is yet another reason why I’m a lapsed Catholic. I’m seriously considering joining the Unitarians.
And yeah, **Rhythmdvl **the reasoning What the … !!! shows speaks volumes to me, it is like encountering a brown M&M in the bowl, the silliness how he approaches a subject is a huge clue that other subjects he mentions have also the same superficial and silly approach applied to them by him.
I heartily concur. His “reasoning” is very much like a brown thing floating in a bowl, though not necessarily what you had in mind.
Good idea, but I don’t see it happening.
What planet did that happen on?
You’re right… it would be impossible to fit a movie down anybody’s throat.
Don’t I recall that there was a major effort to show it to school kids and that parents had to take measures to opt out?
I was talking about things “like that” and admitting that the right pisses and moans too.
Hey…did you see the story about the Chicago teacher who told the kids that the right wants to kill all the “porch monkeys”? I know it’s just an isolated incident but I wanted to expose some more silliness to the ignorant.
Honestly, the pedophilia shit has made me jaded. I can’t get outraged over this. They’re just doing their last hurrah before they’ll have to start accepting it, or at least tolerating it (like they do sex outside of wedlock).
That means “no worries”.
“The Roman Catholic church has written to every state-funded Catholic secondary school in England and Wales asking them to encourage pupils to sign a petition against gay marriage” is not an “isolated incident” due to a single teacher somewhere. Your analogy fails miserably.
What’s Scotland? Chopped liver?