The group’s newest video, seen here, portrays what is assumed to be a group of “everyday” people who are nervous about sharing something about themselves that they feel might make them feel excluded or seen as different. That it might invite scorn or discrimination. That terrible secret? That they feel that marriage should be between a man and a woman. Oh the humanity! That these poor Christians should be persecuted and condemned for their views that some people are not equal to others! My heart bleeds for them.
Get off the fucking cross, you sanctimonious shitheels. Start following the real beliefs and teachings of the compassionate Jesus you profess to embrace instead of couching your hateful shittery in a cloak of smug regret and martyrism (I made a word!) that the antiquated bigotry you masturbate to is no longer permissible except to other assholes in your human centipede of intolerance.
Catholic marriage can certainly remain between a man and a woman. That has fuck all to do with what a legal marriage is.
Catholic marriage is not equal to Protestant marriage is not equal to Baptist marriage is not equal to Hindu marriage is not equal to Islamic marriage is not equal to government marriage.
They can have their beliefs, I respect the imperative of religious groups to define and regulate their internal notions of marriage-as-sacrament. Fine. But they can sod off when they want to ignore the more vastly substantive mundane aspects of marriage-as-big-ass-binding-bundle-of-rights-and-procedures.
The issue of marriage as a practical matter is that of bundled civil law - and that common bundle must not be held hostage by religious dogma. You can regulate your internal religious marriages, but you cannot govern others …
And yet the more direct action focused progressives don’t latch on to him as a champion of the people against corporatists and bankers. He needs to fire his current PR team.
That was painful to watch. But it’s kind of heartening, in a way, that we’re at the point where people feel they are in a minority if they don’t support SSM. What a crazy reversal in so short a time!!
I bet this ends up being like abortion-- Catholics are split pretty much like the rest of the population in being pro and anti. American Catholics are all about the Cafeteria, and that’s gotta scare the Church establishment.
Just two clicks away is Kids React to Gay Marriage, which is not only funny, it demonstrates how doomed the anti-SSM view is.
Well, the girl in the glittered-up green shirt with the hearts on it didn’t quite get the concept, but she also didn’t get why anybody would be mad about it.
“Sniffle - I have gay friends, and I love them! But they keep acting like they have …like…full rights, like a real person! I mean, I love them, but why do they think they have the legal right to marry the one they love? And I am just so worried that people will think of less of me (sob) for thinking less of them!”
This is what it comes down to: The Conservative Catholics (by which I mean Catholics with views associated with Conservatives in the USA, not whatever theologically important definition that phrase may have) are aliens to young people as far as this issue goes. They don’t have enough in common with the majority of the youth to establish successful communication.
They’ve lost the “Because I Said So” Mandate, which has always underpinned their arguments before, so their arguments are too weak to stand without it: Before, whether or not you were Catholic or even especially religious, you accepted that the religious authorities had the moral right to decide what morality was; if a priest, a pastor, and a rabbi all walked into a TV station to say something was wrong, nobody thought it was a joke. It was only right and proper to listen to them, as traditional morality trumped the ability of minorities to live as full adult human beings.
Now that’s going away. Among some age groups, it’s never exited. Without the Mandate, they can still use religious arguments, but those only work if the listener has recognizably the same theology as the speaker. If the listener doesn’t, or doesn’t have any theology at all, they fall flat, like explaining the infield fly rule to someone who doesn’t care about baseball: It might be interesting, but it lacks any moral suasion.
So the old people will rant and rail at the young people, and the young people will do the cruelest thing imaginable: Shrug their shoulders, pat them on the head, and politely fail to understand the basis of their arguments.