Cecilvania: The Forbidden Thread

Woo Hoo! My first lynching as a Townie.
That was fun. Super frustrating, but really fun nonetheless.

I almost wish I was wrong about OAOW so that I could reconcile why I think so very differently from the others. Oh well. I gotta be me.

I shouldn’t have insulted the Town players but the frustration levels were intense. I think I would have fared better if the irrational suspicion of me wasn’t so fierce. I mean, how do you defend being right! Still I’m a bad bad chocolate cake. And a little kick in the butt (with love) won’t be so bad.

I still think Blaster Master is scum. I really need him to be scum, because if he’s Town, I owe him a big apology. And if he’s Town then I’ll lose all my smugness points over the OAOW thing; though that’s probably a good thing.

Spoilers please.

I admit I was frustrated, but that’s part of the game and I had fun. I don’t necessarily feel bad that I called the OAOW votes wrong and ill-informed, because they were. I do regret diminishing the fun of others.

No more subs allowed now? If so someone can let me in to the spoiler boards I would appreciate it. If subbing is still allowed disregard until subs are no longer an option.

Well, I think that this wave of subs (and it might not be a wave anymore, but it looks like at least 2 people are going to be force, subbed…I need to double check with Diver) will be the last. We may allow them up until the end of Day 3.

If you want to spoiler yourself anyway, let one of us know.

If you don’t think I’ll be needed shoot me the PM I’ll gladly spoil myself. :slight_smile:

welcome sach

freudian is my pick as uber scum

It looks like everyone except Hockey Monkey made the requisite number of posts. Blaster Master came alive in the last several hours.

Per the rules, subs will be allowed through the Dawn of Day 4. After that, it’ll be killing without role reveal.

May I have the spoiler link please? Now that Apocalypse Mafia is up and running, I know I can’t handle subbing in, so no worries there. I like to remain in the dark as a rule of thumb, but I think I wanna watch the scum in action so that I can better understand players’ motivations.

Honestly, the best way to understand scum motivations is to be scum in a game. Watching doesn’t help as much. After you’ve played scum you look at statements and can more easily see “Whoa, I’d never do that as scum.” But until you’ve actually been scum, the thought processes and internal worries aren’t there. By watching, you won’t have the same motivations and emotions as real scum do.

Intellectually, you could possibly achieve scum understanding if you are very careful and think through motivations thoroughly. But the easiest way is to just be scum sometime. As scum, your life becomes a game of not being noticed. Which is part of why the OAOW lynch and my lynch made no sense. OMG you’re acting so scummy! Uh, what?
Everyone plays the game looking for scum when it really is much easier to figure out who is Town and work from there.

Bingo. I wrote up a whole post in the offboard game about how people go about looking for scum backward, which is another componant to the idea you mentioned. People look to see if player are acting “anti town”. The problem is, EVERY player will do something anti-town at some point. It’s just fact. We are people, and as people we are not perfect. If town never did anything that was anti-town the game would be borring.

What town rarely does, is act in a solely pro-scum fashion. Even then town will still do pro-scum stuff from time to time, but anti-town doesn not equal pro-scum. In fact, pro-scum is RARELY anti-town (if that makes any sense.)

So as town you have to look for people who are, more often than not, playing anti-scum and then look for people who are (again more often than not) playing pro-scum. THEN you have to start comparing who has the most evidence against them in that regard.

Unfortunatly this is a lot of work, (I know I have trouble taking the time to do all that at the start of the game, though I do have a mental checklist that helps inform my “gut”). But if you can get people talking enough at the start of the game, by mid game when things are slower you can start doing real research into the history of player behavior. You can start doing this seriously as early as Day 3.

I don’t know what to do about early game though. I never have been able to figure that one out. The first 2 Days always suck. Maybe BlaM is right and random is better.

That may be the fastest elimination from a Mafia game ever.

Sorry, it was very last minute that they decided it was HM that they wanted to take out. You want us to keep you on the sub list in case we need another one, or would you like this death to be your last for the game?

For now I’ll stay on the sub list; it can’t hurt, and I know the sub’s bench was a little empty.

It’s not as if I got any inside info - you guys never even sent me a role pm. I only know what I was because I’m dead.

I thought I had made the requisite number of posts. Sorry bout that. No matter though. Have fun guys.

BTW, I think Freudian Slit is scum.

You should totally come back! Just pick yourself up and go “I’m not dead yet!”

And hope that you get killed again in the night. That’d be hilariously good times! You’d win the title of “Most Feared Mafia Player by Scum” awards

Still very suspicious of story. Anothr innocent result, and more telling, why investigat Koldanar? There were, imo, better inv targets, such as Freudian, Blaster, Hal etc.

Odd post from Nanook

safely assume my arse. This can only be assumed if story is a genuine cop, which is not proven.

Well, I think I’ve learned an important lesson about this game, but I won’t say it until MHaye is dead because it might hint at my role.

We need a sub, is there anyone out there who is watching the game still?

Preference will be given to official sub list players.