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Joost van der Westhuizen
Joey Feek
Valerie Harper
Randy Travis
Paul Gascoigne
Ralphie May
JT Holmes
Alex Honnold
Justin Beiber
Rob Ford
Suge Knight
Shia LeBeouf
Omar bin Laden
Tommy Chong
Jimmy Carter
Don Rickles
Joey Feek
Billy Graham
Jerry Lewis
Valerie Harper
Fidel Castro
George HW Bush
Joost van der Westhuizen
Zsa Zsa Gabor
John Hurt
Martin Crowe
I’m going to play more or less the same list as last year, just replacing the two who actually did die:
Clive James - Australian writer and TV presenter
Henry Kissinger
Nancy Reagan
Tom Baker - Fouth Doctor
Arthur Scargill - British trade unionist and left wing, er, “firebrand”
Geoffrey Palmer - British actor
Fidel Castro
Ian Brady - Moors Murderer
Paul Gascoigne - Soccer player
Barbara Bush
Robert Mugabe
Jimmy Carter
Angela Lansbury
Plain list:
Clive James
Henry Kissinger
Nancy Reagan
Tom Baker
Arthur Scargill
Geoffrey Palmer
Fidel Castro
Ian Brady
Paul Gascoigne
Barbara Bush
Robert Mugabe
Jimmy Carter
Angela Lansbury
Alternates:
Bashar al Asad
William Shatner
Bob Dole
Ruth Bader-Ginsburg
Fidel Castro
George HW Bush
William Shatner
Hosni Mubarak
Stephen Hawking
Jimmy Carter
Bob Dole
Hugh Hefner
Dolly Parton
Pope Benedict
Ringo Starr
Macaulay Culkin
Only 1 death last year. I will try and do better:
George Zimmerman
Tommy Lasorda
Clark Howard
Tony Dow
Ronnie Schell
David Selby
Joe Wurzelbacher
Ivan Koloff
Dawn Wells
Burt Ward
William Perry
Colin Dexter
Bernard Fox
Alternates:
Chevy Chase
Cliven Bundy
Tiki Barber
I didn’t see it either way in the rules. The problem is, there are problems either way. If the date of a celebrity’s death is based on local time, but submissions are final by Chicago time, a player at 11pm 12/31 Chicago time could check news sites for Australia, New Zealand, and east Asia, note any deaths of minor celebrities that had already happened on January 1, local time, put them on their lists, and pick up some very easy points.
Since online news reports are usually updated, and generally only show the date and time of the last update, it might be impossible afterwards for us to verify whether the person was already dead by midnight Chicago time in violation of rule 3a, and even if it did turn out to be verifiable, the player could always shrug, play innocent, and just say, “OK, replace that person with my first alternate.”
Alex Trebek- Didn’t follow doctor’s intructions because they weren’t in the form of a question
Rudy Giuliani- Inexplicably forgets the 911 emergency number
Emeril- Bam! Runs into a wall
Tom Brady- Underinflates tires with dire consequences
Oliver Stone- Shot from grassy knoll
Donald Trump- Hair today, gone tomorrow
Rosie O’Donnell- Suffers stroke when discovering she accidentally voted for Trump
Teller- Dies in stuck elevator, for some reason unable to yell for help
Chris Christie- Dies stuck in traffic on George Washington Bridge
Miley Cyrus- Dies of exposure
Lisa Kudrow- Smelly corpse, smelly corpse
Jim Gilmore- Collapses and dies in streeet, weeks pass before anyone can identify the body
Stephen King- Scares himself to death writing his last book
Alternate-
Kim Kardashian- obit never published as researchers fail to figure out why she’s famous
Clean List:
Alex Trebek
Rudy Giuliani
Emeril
Tom Brady
Oliver Stone
Donald Trump
Rosie O’Donnell
Teller
Chris Christie
Miley Cyrus
Lisa Kudrow
Jim Gilmore
Stephen King
Alternate
Kim Kardashian
That would be against the rules:
I agree with this. It may have happened already. IIRC, a sports journalist died on the morning of January 1, 2013 in London. Was it already 2013 in Chicago? We don’t know. The two players who picked him in 2013 received points.
London is six hours ahead of Chicago.
Whitey Bulger
Fidel Castro
Doris Day
Bob Dole
Alan Greenspan
George H.W. Bush
Hugh Hefner
Henry Kissinger
Jim Lovell
Hosni Mubarak
Mort Sahl
Bhumibol Adulyadej
Chuck Yeager
Alternates:
Fats Domino
Dick Van Dyke
Yes. When the journalist died, it was morning in London. It may have been before midnight CST.
Thanks for pointing that out. I actually went back and forth on which I should list. I choose…poorly. :smack:
**This is an updated list:
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Muhammad Ali
George HW Bush
Fats Domino
Joey Feek
Valerie Harper
Mike Ilitch
Clive James
Mary Tyler Moore
Ryan O’Neal
David Prowse
Leon Redbone
Mel Stottlemyre
The Amazing Johnathan
Alternate:
Shane MacGowan
Valerie Harper
Muhammad Ali
Lindsay Lohan
Fidel Castro
Scott Hall
Bob Barker
Amanda Bynes
George H W Bush
Jimmy Carter
Courtney Love
Sid Hartman
Keith Richards
Miley Cyrus
Alternate:
Sarah Palin
Justine Bieber
Dick Cheney
However, since neither poster who got points for Christopher Martin-Jenkins (the journalist in question) posted or revised their lists on 12/31/12, it’s clear that neither of them added CMJ to their 2013 lists after hearing of his death.
If I were the Death Master, I’d keep the rule that local time determines day/month/year of death, but probably add a rule that to collect points on a January 1 death occurring in a time zone ahead of CST, the name must be on one’s list by midnight 12/31 in the time zone that the person died in. IOW, if it were up to me, if you thought a New Zealander on your list might kick the bucket on New Year’s Day, you’d have to get your list in by early morning CST on 12/31.
I agree with this.
Hauntingly similar to last year’s list.
Jack Van Impe
James Dobson
Mike Huckabee
Peter Popoff
Ray Comfort
Terry Jones
Stanislaw Burzynski
Pat Robertson
Jim Bakker
Creflo Dollar
Robert Tilton
Kenneth Copeland
John Hagee
Alternates:
Joel Olsteen
Jesse Duplantis
Given the apparent theme of the list, presumably that’s Terry Jones the Koran-burning preacher, not Terry Jones the Monty Python member.
Well, obviously. You will be putting the Erik the Viking Terry Jones on your list a dozen years from now and still not getting the measly 16 points for him.
Valerie Harper
Wilko Johnson
Ian McKellen
Ryan Buell
Carrol Channing
Bobby Doerr
Marv Levy
Kirk Douglas
Billy Graham
John Glynn
Nancy Reagan
Zsa Zsa Gabor
Maureen O’Hara
Alternates
Johnny Manziel
Ric Flair