Center For American Progress attempts to discredit Rice

The Center For American Progress is a liberal think tank created by John Podesta from which

As you’d expect, they were listening closely to Ms. Rice’s testimony today and came out with this refutation of several claims she made in her testimony. I’m just curious about how some of you feel regarding the accuracy of their assertions, if their points are valid or if it’s partisan politics as usual.

They post their sources. Do you have reason to doubt them?

The fact that something was reported in Newsweek or any other news source does not necessarily mean it’s the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, especially when what’s quoted is an isolated sentence or two that could possibly have been out of context.

One cannot take anything as gospel that is disseminated by an openly partisan entity of any kind. It may be completely factual; if so, that is mere coincidence. All sides will select the parts that suit their own agenda.

Please note that I’m NOT saying that Newsweek or anybody else is lying; just that the “facts” noted in the cites may be incomplete or incorrect. Another group or person with another agenda could come up with an equally factual set of quotes that “proved” just the opposite.

(Personally, I like Dr. Rice; I’d like to see her run for President. But that’s just an opinion.)

Why? Completely aside from the 9/11 readiness question, she’s not been a particularly competent NSC chair, by many accounts. A big part of the job description is to ride herd on State and Defense to make sure they’re on the same page, but she’s clearly been unable to do that, as the conflicts between Rummy and Powell go on and on. If she doesn’t have the stature to rein them in, she’d suck as President.

And she was given responsibility for keeping the Israeli-Palestinian talks moving forward, but Elliot Abrams was able to keep her sidetracked.

Sure, she cleans up nice, and she’s an African-American woman, but that’s not enough.

I’m a mermaid. [Source: Good Times, 4/01/04]

MLS, your skepticism and mine are twin sons of differnt mothers. Normally I’d wait until objective, reasonable sources weighed in on the issue but I had a compelling need to address the issue in short fashion, hence my appeal to those I trust.

RTF, it’s a rare day I don’t read your post twice.

When the apologists are reduced to “don’t trust anything you read,” isn’t it time to simply admit you don’t have anything to refute the charges with?

Er, didn’t she hire Abrams, and he reported to her? Am I confused here?

Of course, looking into that story produces yet ANOTHER major official who resigned in digust over nothing substantive getting done and ideologues sabotaging what did get done: Flynt Leverett. He says that, just like the “plan to stop swatting flies and take down Al Qaeda,” Rice was handed the job of creating the fabled road map, but did nothing. She even nixed everything that Powell had worked so hard to negotiate.

Why does it seem like this administration is spewing disgruntled experts and proffesionals, many of them Republicans, who all allege that the administration just can’t function: that it has no real policy discussions, only politics discussions, that it doesn’t work very hard, that it seems to hold up everything substantive? Are they all lying? Why are they all saying the same thing?

Diullio
O’Neil
Clarke and like, almost his entire anti-terrorism team
Cressy
O’Neil (the FBI who died in 9/11 who had resigned in disgust when the Bush administration took pressure off the Taliban and Al Qaeda)
Leverett

Are they all liars? A giant conspiracy of evil partisan turncoats with agendas?

I think Rice did a good enough job on her own without any help from an outside agency.

She is the weakest link, good-bye.

:smiley:

Some may not be able to see it, but this cartoon expresses a bit of what I was saying:
http://www.salon.com/comics/boll/2004/04/08/boll/index1.html