Chess: Glee v Chessic Sense

Apronus? :confused:

The game is at www.apronus.com

1.d4 Nf6
2. c4 e6
3. Nc3 Bb4
4. a3 Bxc3+
5. bxc3 b6
6. f3 Ba6
7. e4 Nc6
8. Bd3 Na5
9. Qe2 Qc8
10. Nh3 c5
11. d5 e5

((12. f4 d6 13. fxe5 dxe5))

I don’t see the danger here yet. You’ll be able to make a protected passer, sure, but I think it’s overextended. I don’t see it marching anywhere anytime soon.

1.d4 Nf6
2. c4 e6
3. Nc3 Bb4
4. a3 Bxc3+
5. bxc3 b6
6. f3 Ba6
7. e4 Nc6
8. Bd3 Na5
9. Qe2 Qc8
10. Nh3 c5
11. d5 e5
12. f4 d6
13. OO

There is danger (for both sides), but the d-pawn is not the threat (yet!)

First, let me say thank you for playing this game against me. When I got married last year, life got too hectic for chess, and like most habits, when you stop it’s hard to get started again. Because of this game, I showed up at my local chess club, and ended up beating a player rated 150 point higher than me! So I now have the highest rating I’ve ever had! I’ll show you that game in a separate post.
1.d4 Nf6
2. c4 e6
3. Nc3 Bb4
4. a3 Bxc3+
5. bxc3 b6
6. f3 Ba6
7. e4 Nc6
8. Bd3 Na5
9. Qe2 Qc8
10. Nh3 c5
11. d5 e5
12. f4 d6
13. OO

13…Nb3 ((14. Rb1 Nxc1 15. Rfxc1 Qg4 16. Qxg4 Nxg4))

In the very first moves of the game, I said I have to attack the light squares and control the dark squares- that is, I want my pawns on the dark squares. So I’ve taken my “knight on the rim”, as they call it, and traded it for White’s good bishop Then I’ve tried to undermine the control of the White’s light squares by swapping queens. If glee refuses the trade, the queen will have trouble finding a good place to go. So assuming he trades, we’re not good bishop-bad bishop with White getting compensation in his extra space and open files for his rooks.

My goal will thus be to crack open files for my rooks and eventually just attack the pawns while he defends them.

Here’s the other game I won today:

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.cxd5 Nxd5 5.e4 Nxc3 6.bxc3 Bg7 7.Bc4 O-O 8.Ne2 c5 9.Be3 Qa5 10.O-O Nd7 11.Rb1 Qc7 12.Qc2 b6 13.e5 e6
14.Rfc1 Bb7 15.Ng3 Rac8 16.Ne4 cxd4 17.cxd4 Bd5 18.Nd6 Bxc4 19.Rb4 Nxe5 20.dxe5 Bxe5 21.Nxc8 b5 22.Nxa7 Bxh2+ 23.Kh1 Qe7 24.Rxc4
bxc4 25.Qxc4 Bd6 26.Nc8 Qd7 27.Nxd6 Qxd6 28.Bc5 *

Quite the hiding. You were a bit ring-rusty last time I saw you. :slight_smile:

GAME

Just a note… One can copy the moves from the form:
1.d4 Nf6
2. c4 e6
3. Nc3 Bb4
4. a3 Bxc3+

…and paste that into the Box below the Absorb FEN/PGN button at Chess Board Editor - Apronus.com. Click the Absorb button and you have that game.

CAUTION: If you enter moves the site doesn’t understand (OO rather than O-O for castling, for example) those moves are ignored. Since one side will often castle immediately after the other, the game will simply continue with both sides uncastled.
Example:
1.Nf3 Nf6
2.g3 g6
3.Bg2 Bg7
4.OO OO
5.Nc3 Nc6

Illegal moves will throw a warning, but the above example is a PITA.

GAME

I made sure the castles were accurate!

Glee Chessic Sense
1.d4 Nf6
2. c4 e6
3. Nc3 Bb4
4. a3 Bxc3+
5. bxc3 b6
6. f3 Ba6
7. e4 Nc6
8. Bd3 Na5
9. Qe2 Qc8
10. Nh3 c5
11. d5 e5
12. f4 d6
13. OO Nb3
14. Rb1 Nxc1
15. Raxc1

(if 15. … Qg4 16. Rf3)

Ah, now I would have described your Knight on a5 as “A thing of beauty and a joy forever.”
Although any knight has less choice on edge of the board, in this game your knight was very safely placed and attacking my weak pawn.
As it’s wasn’t clear how good by bishop on c1 was going to be, I would have kept the knight on the board!

I’m delighted that your thirst for chess has been reawakened. :cool:

(The game you give was exciting, but Black just went too far by playing Nxe5…)

GAME …through move 15 (assuming move 14 for chessic sense) and amending move 15. for glee to R"B"xc1.

OK, glee, I’m going to ask for help here. I’m looking at:

    •           Qg4           
      
  1. Rf3 Nh5
  2. Rcf1 exf4
  3. Nxf4 Nxf4
  4. Rxf4 Qxe2
  5. Bxe2 f6
  6. Bh5+ Ke7
  7. Be2 *

…which leaves me with two underdeveloped rooks but solid pawns and a nice-looking bishop to attack your three islands. I can’t tell who’s wining this position.

I also see…

  1. Rbxc1 Qg4
  2. Rf3 Nh5
  3. fxe5 dxe5
  4. Rf5

…where I’m losing a pawn to the zwischenzug Rxe5!. So what if I try to put my queen on a4? Well, you just calmly play Bc2 and I’m kept out.

So here’s what I’m thinking: I need to castle. Queenside would be better since you already have three pieces and an advanced pawn on the kingside along with an easily opened file. I’m in a space crunch, but my pawns are healthier, so if I can trade knights and/or queens, I’ll be better off. If I can restrict your pieces, that’d be good, too. But how do I fight on the f file after the pawn trade?

I hope this isn’t going too far…
I’ve linked the spurs that CS is asking about separately, within the quote.

I’m also including a clean, linked moves list with no move after RxN.

1.d4 Nf6
2. c4 e6
3. Nc3 Bb4
4. a3 Bxc3+
5. bxc3 b6
6. f3 Ba6
7. e4 Nc6
8. Bd3 Na5
9. Qe2 Qc8
10. Nh3 c5
11. d5 e5
12. f4 d6
13. O-O Nb3
14. Rb1 Nxc1
15. Rbxc1

Righty ho!

After 20. Bxe2 f6, you’re fine.
Although I’m ahead in development, my rooks have no way in, my bishop is blocked and my c4 and e4 pawns are weak.
I’d much rather be Black in this position.

Yes - well spotted on Rf5! when I’m a comfortable pawn ahead.
And note that if you play … Qg4, but don’t play … Nh5, I have the idea of f5 and Qe3, trying to trap your Queen. :cool:

If 15. … Qd7, I can consider 16. a4.
This prepares a5, giving me pawn levers on both sides of the board.
(If 16. … Qxa4 17. Ra1 wins a piece.)

Well that’s a lot to reply to!

I agree you need to link your rooks (although in a blocked position like this, you can often get away with ideas like sending your king to c7.)
Castling K-side is risking a big attack - whether I play fxe5 and use the f-file; or f5 and g4 with a pawn storm.
Castling Q-side is safer - but I do have the a4-a5 idea…

Of course you’d like to trade Knights and Queens. (Sometimes you get kibitzers who say “Just exchange pieces” - but they don’t tell you how. :smack: )

At present you have no hope of competing on the f-file. But I don’t have an immediate breakthrough there either.

Hope this helps…

That’s really helpful, especially for spectators without easy access to a board.
Thanks! :smiley:

1.d4 Nf6
2. c4 e6
3. Nc3 Bb4
4. a3 Bxc3+
5. bxc3 b6
6. f3 Ba6
7. e4 Nc6
8. Bd3 Na5
9. Qe2 Qc8
10. Nh3 c5
11. d5 e5
12. f4 d6
13. O-O Nb3
14. Rb1 Nxc1
15. Rbxc1

…Qd7.
I’m preparing to castle queenside and use my pawns as fighting pieces. My near-term goal is to find a way to make your bishop permanently bad. As it is now, the threat of fxe, making a passer, is still dangerous, so I want my queen where she can stop that threat the best.

Here’s another interesting game from last Friday. At move 61, we both have under 5 minutes on our clocks and we’ve been at the board for almost 5 hours already. I stopped recording, so the moves aren’t perfect after that. No one hung any pieces, for example. I did win a pawn when he realized my knight had outmaneuvered his bishop and it couldn’t give either possible check safely.

I like how my queen goes to d3 three times in the middle game and later, it combines with my other pieces to protect my exposed king from all fronts.


  1. d4             Nf6           
  2. c4             b6            
  3. Nc3            Bb7           
  4. Nf3            e6            
  5. Bg5            Be7           
  6. Qd3            d6            
  7. e4             Nbd7          
  8. Be2            O-O           
  9. O-O            e5            
 10. Be3            Ng4           
 11. Rfd1           Nxe3          
 12. Qxe3           Bf6           
 13. d5             g6            
 14. b4             Bg7           
 15. Rac1           Nf6           
 16. c5             Ng4           
 17. Qd3            Bh6           
 18. Rc2            bxc5          
 19. bxc5           a5            
 20. cxd6           cxd6          
 21. Nb5            Nf6           
 22. Nd2            Ba6           
 23. a4             Rb8           
 24. f3             Nd7           
 25. Nc4            Nc5           
 26. Qa3            Bxb5          
 27. axb5           a4            
 28. Nxd6           Nb3           
 29. Nc4            Nd4           
 30. Rb2            Nxb5          
 31. Qd3            Nd4           
 32. Rdb1           Rxb2          
 33. Rxb2           Qa8           
 34. Ra2            Qa7           
 35. Kf1            Rc8           
 36. Bd1            Qe7           
 37. Rxa4           Qh4           
 38. Nxe5           Qxh2          
 39. Ng4            Qh1+          
 40. Kf2            Bg7           
 41. Rxd4           h5            
 42. Ne3            Be5           
 43. Rc4            Rb8           
 44. d6             Bf6           
 45. Qd2            Bh4+          
 46. Ke2            Qg1           
 47. d7             Kh7           
 48. Rc8            Qf2+          
 49. Kd3            Qg3           
 50. Rxb8           Qxb8          
 51. Nc4            Qb5           
 52. Qc3            Qxd7+         
 53. Qd4            Qb7           
 54. Qb6            Qe7           
 55. Qd6            Qa7           
 56. Bb3            Qg1           
 57. Ne3            Qb1+          
 58. Bc2            Qb5+          
 59. Nc4            Qe8           
 60. Qd5            Qe7           
 61. Nd6            f6            
 62. Qb7            Qxb7          
 63. Nxb7           Kh6           
 64. Nc5            Kg7           
 65. Ke3            Bg3           
 66. Nd3            Kh6           
 67. f4             Kg7           
 68. Kf3            Bh4           
 69. f5             g5            
 70. g3             g4+           
 71. Kg2            Bg5           
 72. Nb4            Bh6           
 73. Nd5            Bg5           
 74. Bb3            h4            
 75. gxh4           Bxh4          
 76. Nc7            Kh6           
 77. Ne6            Be1           
 78. Bd1            Kh5           
 79. Nc5            Bc3           
 80. Nd3            Bb4           
 81. Kg3            Bc3           
 82. Bxg4+          Kh6           
 83. Nb4            Bd4           
 84. Nd5            Bb2           
 85. Nc7            Be5+

Hope I got that right…

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