In Pretoria, in the 50’s, for 20 minutes or less.
I was going to come in to say exactly the same thing. I assumed orcenio is a scientist because he’s very well informed.
Now you’re just ignoring shit to rant. I already said feel free to use “retard” in all its other non-slang, non-derogatory forms. As to your last question, why not try to avoid those that use any group of people as a frame of reference for contempt, when the attribute in play is both beyond that group’s control and something that is currently used to categorize said people as sub-human. If the word does none of those things in a different context–here’s the tricky part–then use it in that different, non-hateful context as much as you’d like.
Here’s an easy way to think of it. If you wouldn’t use the term in front of the people it uses as a handy little frame of reference and those who love them (let’s say if a mentally retarded child and her parents were in the room), then follow your instincts and don’t use it at all.
How’s that for a start? Any time a particular usage confuses you, feel free to come to me and I’ll explain.
Whenever I ponder the appropriateness of a word or phrase, I ask myself, "Would Obama have said that ? " .
In any case, I am not retarded, clinically or euphemistically. Slow, maybe, but not retarded.
I am, instead, “success-deferred,” particularly when trying to persuade Orcenio that various populations are disparately enabled for various skillsets by virtue of the disparate prevalence of genes coding for those skillsets.
I labor on, that I may know success in my lifetime. But I think I should probably stop trying to jerk Orcenio’s chain with my ridiculous rants about population disparities. He seems to take it personally, and judging from his OP post here, it is not good for his blood pressure.
orcenio isn’t retarded, he’s black or brown-skinned, which of course explains his frustration with his inability to comprehend genetic diversity and its implications because of his inferior genetic coding.
Hey, shithead, felch a constipated goat.
See - it just isn’t that hard to find non-racist, non-sexual orientation, non-handicapped, non-sexist perjoratives and still get the vitrol out.
Hey, don’t be an ivanastikov! There are limits to good taste, you know!
“Hey, shithead, felch a constipated goat” is a lame insult. Sounds like a band name. Besides it is animalism and I kinda like goats.
Good insults should involve at least one of the subjects of race, sexual orientation, handicaps, sexist. For instance: your mother is a nigger gay retard whore.
Waaah orcenio always just uses insults in his arguements, and never uses science!
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Waaah orcenio always just uses cites!
I just want to talk about Africa.
Or we could simply summarize it and call her a great Dane?
No. Wouldn’t work. That’s either a dog or an oxymoron.
You want to talk about Africa without bringing up things that you don’t want to talk about.
Maybe the next time you start a thread about Africa, add something to the OP like this: “I understand that there are studies indicating that [black people] have lower IQs on average than [other people]. I’m not interested in discussing that. Please only discuss factors that bear on the topic other than that.” And feel free to substitute whatever other descriptor makes you happy for the bracketed portions above.
I can’t speak for anyone else, but I respect requests like that.
Retard was not a good word to use (probably best to just apologise, rephrase, and let the pitting be of the subject rather than one casual word - you misused one word, Chief Pedant misused his entire brain), but I agree with the thrust of your post, and I like that you pitted Chief Pedant by deliberately mis-spelling his name.
I like Chief Pendant, too. In fairness, I think you with the face was first with it.
And it’s amusing to see insults, but no data, fly in the Pit. Not much data for genetic equality in GD either, come to think of it…
How is it that genes are an acceptable explanation for variations in populations of every species but humans?
So this went from racism to retards. That soo stoopid, who ever started the derailment should be raped. Wait, my sister was raped, so I can’t say rap, and no one else should either. Where’s my blanky? waaAAHHHHHH.
He’s right though
Which one?
Which genes?
Can you point to physiological differences between the brains of varied population groups?
If not, all you have is some statistical data. Which you find meaningful, many suspect, because they seem to confirm prejudices you already have.