Wow! It’s nice to know that you don’t single out homosexuals, FriendofGod – you managed to indict everyone I know online in that post. And from your point of view, you’re justified – “All men have sinned and come short of the glory of God,” after all.
And not a word any of us have said seems to have come through as anything except the delusions of those not saved. That saddens me.
Esprix is, justifiably, mad. You have just indicted him and his gay Christian friends as people who can never find the peace and love of Christ. You see, they are of same-sex orientation. They did not choose to be; they found themselves as that. It is not a choice. They have, to varying degrees, arrived at some peace within themselves to their orientation, although much of society still condemns them for it. Just as it did blacks for being black fifty years ago. Even if they choose to remain celibate, they are sinful in mind. Only sex within marriage is acceptable. And since marriage is between a man and a woman, and they are not drawn to women (or the women to men), they cannot marry. A wonderful choice they are presented, fully befitting the term Good News. Jesus will save you; all you need to do is deny who you are.
Jesus can indeed make changes in people’s lives. But in my experience he converts false pride into self-assurance, insecurity into assured humility, stubbornness into fortitude, lust into love. IMHO, it is quite possible for a gay person to commit sexual sin…if I were judging, I would say that many do, regularly. Lust for a hunky sex object differs in no way from lust for a curvaceous sex object. Anonymous or one-nighter promiscuity for the sake of slaking one’s sex drive is not a different sin because the partner happens to be of the opposite sex or your own. But heterosexuals have an out you would deny homosexuals: they can fall in love, marry, and find every kind of fulfillment, not merely sexual but intimacy, companionship, support in time of trouble, joy in time of gladness. According to you, this is denied people who are oriented toward others of their own sex. My wife has been all these things to me; Satan’s fiancee appears to be all these things to him. And God grant that we are these things to them as well. But, as you present it, the fact that Esprix feels what appear to be the same emotions, the same dedication, towards his life partner is a demonic delusion – he cannot fall in love as we can, he cannot need a helpmeet as we can. Satan, stop teasing Esprix! Play nice!
But you did not stop there. It would appear from the subtext of your post that only born-again Christians can act morally. That no atheist, agnostic, UU, Jew, Moslem, or anyone else can take any action that is not selfishly oriented. That none of them has any ethical base for their life.
Nice job! You have just disproved the validity of Christianity to everyone on this board but the handful of us who really know what having Christ in your life is like. And that saddens me beyond anything you can imagine.
