Christmas a National Holiday?

I should have checked the US and Canada. But that still leaves most of the rest of the world. I was backing up a point you yourself made, BTW!

November 1st is fairly popular as a public holiday, but nowhere near as commonly as Christmas Day, New Year’s Day and May 1st (and personally I wouldn’t include a different holiday on a different date as counting towards this one).

More nitpick - May 1 isn’t a holiday in Aus either. Mid-autumn = crummy time for a holiday. I wouldn’t be surprised if NZ skips it too.

Here in Victoria, November 1 is a public holiday roughly once every seven years…

:rolleyes: You were corrected on this excessively sweeping claim, and acknowledged the correction, in the very thread you’re quoting your OP from:

A better summary can be found in, e.g., this article:

So while the December 25 date assigned to Jesus’ birth was indeed arrived at on purely theological grounds without reference to “competing” with Saturnalia, the traditions of revelry and feasting associated with Saturnalia do seem to have influenced both later pagan solstice celebrations and the Christian celebration of Christmas.

In particular, your claim that Christmas didn’t become a “party-type” holiday until it was promoted by Charlemagne in the early 9th century is not accurate, as the reference to the complaints about Christmas party excesses by Asterius and his colleagues some four hundred years earlier clearly show.

Though I’m sure folks had a god in mind in the early days of Thanksgiving, today it is a secular holiday worshipped at the altar of the shopping mall and the NFL. The faithful may take time to give thanks to whomever they pray to, but it does not mark a religious event like Christmas does.

It would celebrated here if Jesus had risen on the third Monday of April.