Cindy McCain is truly an awful human being

Tell him to give peas a chance.

I agree with your analogy, but I draw the opposite conclusion. My sister dated a few scumbags when she was younger, but I don’t think her association with them made her less of a good person or meant that she shared their values and opinions. Nor do I think my association during that time with her reflected one whit on my character or values (I was a teenager at the time and thus sort of a douchebag, but that had nothing to do with her).

I think judgment by association is a dangerous game to play. People who are loyal to those who make mistakes or do bad things are not necessarily bad people themselves. Some of the best people are those who continue to look for the good in those the rest of us have given up on.

Well, and I’ll admit that this is superficial as hell, my copy of “Newsweek”* arrived today and she is one scary looking woman**. And that photo (I’m sure) has had some “help”. Now, I wouldn’t vote for anyone on looks alone (Yes, I know I’m not voting for her), but I look at her and think, “work done, shallow country club type”. Now all you bleeding heart conservatives can rain fire on me for stereotyping this misunderstood, entitled white chick. And she does kind of look like Anne Coulter–creepy. The caption is “what’s behind that smile?”.

  1. I don’t want to know and 2. that smile looks forced to me, but that might be the botox (not being snarky, just honest). She looks a bit Stepford to me, but then most First Ladies’ do (Laura and Nancy being Queen Stepfords, Bess Truman and Eleanor Roosevelt not so much).

BTW, I loved Jon Stewart’s bit about the FL candidates last night.

  • I can never remember if I’m supposed to underline, italicize or do whatever to magazines. Carry on.

** Mother taught me to not judge on looks alone, just like she taught you. Guess what? we all still do it, each and every day. As does my mother and yours.

ETA: I don’t think Cindy is a scumbag or anything like that. I think she lives in a bubble of entitlement and privilege. Michelle may have had some of that (Princeton is not known for its being in touch with reality), but I can’t help but think that Michelle is a bit more grounded in the realities of life like being in debt or struggling to find a job. Cindy has known great personal pain, but being an addict, even a reformed one, is not all that impressive in my eyes. Kudos to her for getting clean, but like Chris Rock says, “you’re not supposed to go to jail.” Well, you’re not supposed to get addicted, steal and then do time, either. Of course, this opens up the whole can of worms about addiction and its morality/disease stuff, and that’s another thread.

Giraffe–those people searching for the good could well just be co-dependent or enablers, too.

It has been Shodanized. it is about Clinton and Paula. Did you read any responses before you jibbered that?

The rest become moderators.

Regards,
Shodan

Right, so what do Bush and Cheney have to do with anything?

Yep, we’re the ones who can find the bad in even the nicest people. :wink:

Not to disparage the teaching profession, but I’ve known a lot of bimbo teachers in my day. I also don’t think it takes a great degree of intelligence to inherit a board position on the company your father founded. And every socialite in existence is on the board of some charity. I think bimbo is a perfectly cromulent description.

I heard John McCain himself called her a cunt

No, sorry, you don’t get to handwave away getting a masters degree in special education and teaching Down syndrome children as a career, which takes more effort than you realize (and quite frankly, probably more than you’re capable of). Not to dispaage you or anything.

Furthermore, She “inherited” the company by virtue of being vice president and majority stockholder, and has helped run the successful company. Finally, she is hands-on in her charity work, not only founding a major charity, but actually participating in the ones she works with now. Here’s the CARE Board of Directors. Go ahead and point out all the socialites. Maybe you can list them all from the HALO trustees? No? What about the Board of Directors from Operation SMILE? She’s actually traveled to participate in operations Morocco, Vietnam, India, Cambodia, Sri Lanka, Mozambique, and Angola.

But fine, let’s reverse it. Where do you get off saying she’s “undeniably a bimbo”? Any cites? Any evidence? Anything whatseover? Like I said, there’s lots of things you can call her without resorting to baseless (and utterly untrue) insults.

It’s not legitimate to just drop a nuke onto somebody’s city. It is, however, legitimate (if there’s no better option) to maintain the ability and threat of doing so in order to dissuade the other guy from doing so to you.

Is this not pretty typical of how offspring inherit companies? Putting quote marks around inherited does not make the fact of her inheritance any less true, it just makes you look pointlessly combative.

You don’t think Johnnie will have found a new trophy by 2016?

No. That would be silly. He’s saying Obama is going to dump Michelle for Cindy.

Can I write in Elizabeth Kucinich?

As an excercise in boundless, unbridled optimism? Of course. I would remind that Brad Pitt has a much better chance to be President than Dennis.

snicker

Cindy? Is that you?

Thanks for the links. Among the CEOs and Investment Bankers, she is the least professionally-experienced member of the CARE Board. She also stands beside plenty of CEOs, corporate founders and co-founders on the Operation SMILE Board. Really, is there any comparison? Inheriting a company your father started doesn’t count, for me, as a professional accreditation. She’s basically no more than a high-school special ed teacher with a lot of money. And, while I do respect special ed teachers, they’re no intellectuals. Among her activities in university, she was a cheerleader and a sorority member. That’s not exactly math club.

According to wikipedia, she spent most of McCain’s 2000 campaign “impress[ing] Republican voters with her looks and elegance at coffee shops and other small campaign settings, where she frequently referred to her children, carpooling, and charity work.” Well, thanks for that, Cindy. I mean, let’s face it- is there any depth to this woman whatsoever? If there is, I don’t see any evidence of it.

[intentionally bitchy aside] She is a very successful Republican wife. She meets all their qualifications: blonde, passably good looking, well groomed*, takes a back seat to husband’s career by concentrating on charity work and other “noblesse oblige” outlets, never thinks for herself or expresses an independent opinion. I know several Cindy McCain types–but with slightly less money. They never lose their poise, their manicure or their rictus of a smile. They also have almost no contact with reality as lived by less privileged people. Just once I’d like to see them get physically dirty in a job–just so they know what it feels like. Not that charity work isn’t hard, but there is something about physical labor that changes a person’s perspective. IMO, they need a change or at least exposure to it. [/intentionally bitchy aside]

But I’ve had enough fun at Cindy’s expense–I could pick on her name as well (can’t she at least be Cynthia? When I hear Cindy, I think Cindy Brady), but I’m done now. That felt good. :slight_smile: (need an evil smiley)
*well groomed is a bipartisan requirement.

It looks like Cindy’s history with alcohol, and not drugs, may become another thorn in her husband’s side.