But that’s the thing, she didn’t really pit it, did she? There was all kinds of exposition that could have led up to it, and then no payoff. People rate posts around here all the time, and I’ve seen some where posters who seemed genuinely pissed or hurt got mocked because they composed a really lame OP. I don’t see how this situation is any different, in the grand scheme of things. And I really can’t believe it’s generating a pile on like this.
Sinusoidal responded rather competently to CarnalK in her original thread, and if all and sundry hadn’t decided to chime in with their perky finger-wagging, it likely would have gone no further.
What pissed me off more than anything else was that you took a thread about a father’s cancer, and made it all about YOU. You effectively dismissed the cancer and all the other shit that the OP’s going through, because you thought it more important to point out that YOU think the thread is in the wrong place.
For the record, I think the thread belonged in the Pit just as much as it belonged in MPSIMS, either one. Personally, I probably would’ve posted it in there, myself.
My reason for opening this thread is because I stated something I honestly felt about an OP, not a hijack in my opinion, and was warned for being a jerk. Since I feel no real animosity, it was easy for me to not attack the OP personally or make light of a serious situation. Yet still, I apparently broke an actual rule.
I am not defending my post as nice. It was insensitive and rude but I did not believe that was a requirement for Pit posts. I honestly expected to be attacked for and probably get a Pit thread for it – I don’t welcome and certainly don’t relish negative attention (though I admit I can get drawn into flamefests).
I have no intention of stalking the BBQ and trainwrecking MPSIMS style threads. That would be jerky and I’m not a jerk. Believe it or not.
For somebody who seems so fuzzy on how exactly to be a jerk, you’re sure doing one hell of a job at it. Apparently it just comes as an innate talent for some people.
Here’s a clue, fuck-head: if someone’s talking about their father’s having a terminal disease, dumping shit on that person is being a jerk.
That’s not the “rules of the Pit.” That’s the rules of being a goddamn human being.
Hmmm. Maybe, just maybe, it’s ‘cause the original thread was about fucking cancer? You do realize that there’s a point where stuff happening in real life trumps playing message board “Gotcha!”, right? Jesus Christ, but some of the people I meet on this board scare the ever lovin’ fuck out of me.
So instead of 1 firm thing that she said “YES! I pit this!” she gave us 8 or 9 thing so that she could get them off her chest. Also, the issue with CarnalK was NOT how the OP was composed and whether or not it got a 7.2 or a 9.5 for “quality”.
It makes me laugh, because this post in the original thread could be recycled for you, belladonna: post #4.
Apparently, we disagree on what constitutes a pitting. I can live with that.
I will point out however, that the referenced post #4 was not posted until *after * CarnalK questioned the OPs placement, and that little back and forth was precisely what I was referring to in my above post #41. You know, the one you quoted.
I’m always glad to provide a chuckle though, so at least we’ll always have that.
A moment of impetiousness, bug up my ass and target jumping right in front of me is what brought about this assholery and I admit that fully. If my post actually caused any harm to Sinusoidal Saurus, he has my full and sincere apology. I hope I truly was simply a “yipping dog”.
I just want to know if the next person, one who doesn’t have the benefit of a long and generally good natured posting history, will be banned on the spot (as been suggested by posters). I want to know if tender issues will be quickly shuttled to MPSIMS.
Anyone with at least 2 brain cells would not need a “reading of the law” to tell them they were a jerk. Shitting on a thread where someone was venting about cancer hitting the family was a rotten thing to do and you know it, whether the Supreme Court Of Pitdom rules on it or not. Your attitude, at least when I bothered to pay attention has apparently been one of “so what if you have a problem, you’re just fucked up and should get over it.” Additionally, you do not own the Pit and you are not the only one who paid up. We all see things that piss us off, and the thing to do is to ignore it, or report it. Nobody appointed you to police the Pit.
You have me confused. I honestly thought (and frankly do think differently.) When I say in the first line that “March was just about the worst month ever,” I would have thought it was pretty clear what I was pitting or bitching about: March, the worst month ever.
I thought that the substance was pretty clear to: That I felt beaten up and lost.
I thought my post was a fairly innocuous and mild pitting, and am surprised about the strong and intense responses I received to it. If such a mild post is going to cause that degree of anger and strife maybe it’s best for the board if I don’t renew.
Maybe if I had titled my thread “I pit last month, the worst fucking month ever!”
Then wrote as my OP:
Then maybe that would have been ok. Do you think? I guess mild and metaphorically is no longer apropriate, and the pit is reserved for mindless cursing and personal attacks.
I had thought it was the place to rant or complain. Been doing it that way for five years and 10,000 posts and only had one thread moved, IIRC. I thought it was ok.
Personally, I’m disgusted that it’s come to this. I think it’s very clear that there is a membership contingent that gets its jollies by trying to ruin everybody else’s experience and induce ill-will and trainwrecks.
They even have forums devoted to it off the board, so this should hardly be a revelation.
If attempting to create trainwrecks and induce ill-will while ruining the board for everybody else isn’t being a jerk, I don’t know what is.
Things revert to the lowest common denominator, and if that’s what you allow, that’s what this place will be, and you’ll lose the members interested in something else.
But don’t worry, the point is taken. I won’t be starting any pit threads where I don’t curse a lot and call people names. I’ll be sure and put “I pit___” at the top so that those who wish to skim won’t be confused, and I’ll steer clear of metaphor or artifice. Third grade level seems to be about right, would you agree?
Scylla, don’t change the writing style. The OP you wrote was pretty damn good in its imagry and poetically expressed what you were feeling. Apparently there’s a certain member that has a hard-on for you, what’s a guy to do?
[sub]I’m really hoping this turns into a praise Scylla thread. That should set the OP over the edge[/sub]
But I wasn’t going to post unless someone else bumped. Paydirt! I’m actually surprised that this is the first time anyone’s accidentally crossposted in these threads and then bamm, 2X. lol (at least that’s how it appears, though massive topic overlap so maybe not?)
I’ve said before, I like using the Pit for debate with the ability to blow off steam. I don’t “[get my] jollies by trying to ruin everybody else’s experience and induce ill-will and trainwrecks.” I don’t begrudge anyone an MPSIMS forum. I don’t expect my wishes to become law of the land.
I want to be clear, I’ve kind of admitted all along that I wasn’t a nice guy during this. I was refusing to directly address it because I was being stubborn and wanted better clarification of my Pit jerk rules first. My cyber-temper has cooled, so I just remembered that it’s not my personality to withhold a valid apology over a grudge - most especially when they don’t share the same target.
Okay, CarnalK, I’m answering this in official guise, since you ask for specifics. My previous post was intended for clarification, and we deliberately done as a poster it couldn’t carry even the slightest hint of additional warning. Neither does this one, btw.
No member, new or otherwise, can be ‘banned on the spot’. This has been made crystal clear a number of times. Formal warnings will be issued. Warnings are intended just as much to help posters survive and thrive on the board as they are to crack down. If a member either can’t or won’t amend their behavior, the poster’s record is reviewed by staff. At least one admin and two mods must agree that banning is justified and advisable. Speculating that this process would casually tossed aside is ridiculous.
Nobody can promise you that all tender issues’ will be moved anywhere, not the least because ‘tender’ is in the eye of the beholder. Anything involving personal issues? Yeah, right. A lot of it is presentation but what strikes you as whining for affirmation may be somebody else’s rant. Ditto with ‘quickly’. If a thread goes rancid, reasonably or not, it ain’t gonna move outta the Pit. If we get to it first, we’ll apply our best judgement. Which may not agree with yours, but there ya have it.
That was not the point, Scylla. The Pit doesn’t have to be aflamefest or cussing contest. (Though some of the more creative invective can be rather mind boggling.)
FWIW, your thread struck me more as an exploration of the aftermath of experiencing blow after blow rather than a rant. It wasn’t that it was metaphorical, lacked obscenities or was too elevated. It just didn’t read like you were really Pitting anything. Again, presentation and focus; more ‘life punched me around too many times and I’m not sure where that leaves me’.
But then again, I don’t regard MPSIMS as purely a fluffy annex, despite its puckish name. Confrontation doesn’t magically make anything more ‘real’ or valid. My belief that your thread belonged better in MPSIMS isn’t an insult.
I don’t think I could have asked for a better response. Thanks much for clarification, TVeblen.
I was always puzzled by people who express hesitation about posting things in MPSIMS because the words “Mundane” and “Pointless” were in the title; I mean what’s in a name? But maybe it really ought to be changed. Why not just lop off the offending words: “I Must Share”. I’d actually say that’s kind of sweet, if noone accuses me of going soft.
