Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread

More to the point, I’m arguing against the perception that Trump is running a losing campaign deliberately in order to set himself up for a media empire.

This beef with the entire fucking state of Nevada would hurt his media empire.

And I still feel a tiny little frisson of wonder from that sentence.

That kid giving the speech in the bullying ad is gooooooood…

Everything Trump says is right. If it’s not right, he simply doesn’t say it anymore, and then nobody can ever say he said it. And if you do say he’s wrong, well, then, you’re being unfair to him.

Besides, Nevada wouldn’t let him open a casino in Vegas, so they’re obviously haters who’ve been being not very nice to him, and everyone agrees that they’re being unfair to him, because he says they are, and everything he says is right.

Sure, and it’s worth acknowledging that often simpler models can perform better than more complex ones that try to “take everything into account”, since they’re less susceptible to overfitting.

What’s interesting is their previous two endorsements. The first was Abraham Lincoln based on his anti-slavery position, but the second, which strangely parallels this election, was in 1964 where another reasonably successful Democrat (LBJ) was running against another candidate The Atlantic felt was actively dangerous (Goldwater).

Oh I love that, spewed coffee everywhere.

As of now, flights tomorrow thru Atlanta are showing no projected delay, and weather forecast for the panhandle shows nothing but uninterrupted sun.

Weird Emerson results.

NV tied and FL Trump +1 with Clinton +2 in AZ? Really?

Aggregators away!

I first read that as “NY Tied,” and almost peed in my pants. :slight_smile:

The bit about fantasy baseball is because Silver first came to prominence as the stats cruncher for The Baseball Prospectus. There, he and others took the beginnings of Sabermetrics - the application of statistical analysis to baseball which Bill James started - and applied rigor to the math.

So it’s kind of a cheap shot.

538 updated again, and now Arizona, which had been various shades of red, is essentially 50-50 in the Now-Cast and shaded the very lightest of light pink. My girl is going to college there, and has a chance to cast a vote that really counts in her first Presidential election!

I agree. I can watch kitten videos all day, and each new one astounds and delights me. Trump doesn’t delight, but he does amaze every time…

But then, so are Silver’s.

It’s important to note that the disagreements between Wang’s and Silver’s models are, in the broad scheme of political projections, REALLY minor. You’ve got two honest to God statisticians who use a logical, fact-based approach based on mathematics. They have some methodological differences but both arrive at pretty much the same conclusions and keep getting it right. The majority of other “forecasts” are either based on something other than math, or apply math to something other than polls, or “unskew” the polls, or are based on some other variety of unicorns, hopes and dreams.

I do find this comment in the Wikipedia weird, though:

[QUPOTE=Wiki article on Sam Wang]His statistical analysis in 2012 correctly predicted the presidential vote outcome in 49 of 50 states and even the popular vote outcome of Barack Obama’s 51.1% to Mitt Romney’s 48.9%.
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Uh… that was not the popular vote outcome, though. It ended up being 51.1 to 47.2. Wang did predict Obama would win 51.1-48.9 if you just counted Obama and Romney, so he was a tiny bit off there - certainly not by a lot.

And one hour later, the barest of blues…

Huh. I guess that damned “Daisy” commercial scared everybody.

That I’ll believe when I see it. If AZ goes for Hillary then you can officially declare the Trump candidacy to be a disaster.

True dat. But when a simpler model predicts as well as a more complicated model is not the simpler one preferred?

Holy cow - on the Nowcast Trump has dropped below 15%, and even in the polls-plus (the most favourable forecast for him) he’s just breaking 25%. Roll on the next debate…

Back when LBJ was the “peace” candidate.

In the Polls Only, Colorado just moved above 80% for Hillary, which on my 270towin board, moves CO out of “swing” territory and solid blue. And puts Hillary at 269 (relatively) safe EVs. And with AZ moving officially into “swing” territory, momentum is not on Don’s side right now.

Course, I won’t believe anything until the votes are all actually cast.