I cop to a minor debate fault, and agree it should end here.
I will henceforth constrain myself in this thread to only pointing out the egregious falsehoods which have a direct bearing on the Trump vs Clinton presidential contest.
If Clinton is a treasonous criminal, why, in the twenty-plus years they’ve had her in the cross-hairs, have the Republicans never pulled the trigger on any major political indictments against her?
Why is the “Clinton Is A Criminal” theory stalled out at the “lies and innuendo” stage, never progressing to anything solid?
Why is this whole thing more reminiscent of the hunt for Bigfoot than any actual criminal investigation?
I think you missed the news of Trump making deals in Cuba while an embargo was going on, there is also more recently the falls from grace his fellow gremlins from the Kremlin had, that point to a lot of connections and possibly things that Trump owes to Russia that will cloud his already foggy memory when dealing with Putin if he wins.
I do not defend any government. I have made that as clear as possible, maybe you could read what I’ve said, maybe not.
I also haven’t not “denied” global warming, or that it has been contributed to by human industriousness. I have made two major claims. 1) Fossil fuels have been one of the best innovations in the history of mankind and have caused climate related deaths to plummet. 2) We should not further infringe on property rights in order to “combat” global warming.
In any instance the fossil fuel companies put guns in faces, I condemn that action. Unfortunately fossil fuel companies have used government as a weapon, and that is inconsistent with libertarianism, but not inconsistent with your preferred system of authoritarianism.
The basics include being aware that billions of people rely on fossil fuels to live, and without fossil fuels human societies would never have progressed as rapidly as they have. Indeed you would probably not have the leisure time to daydream about subjecting billions of people to your poorly thought out coercive actions.
Yes she won’t manipulate the weather, she will curb it by enacting policy. She will protect us from temperature we don’t like. Hallelujah let the hosannas be warbled. Raise the heavenly choir.
I never defended the confederacy.
Do you guys understand the concepts of hubris and modesty? Serious question.
Well thank you for showing that indeed you are not aware that that was already taken into account by the IPCC and many other scientific and economic groups that recommend that we commit to change, no serious policy proposed tell us that we should shut down civilization.
Indeed you are still missing the basics and just following denialist propaganda.
And you also demonstrate here a common climate change denial tactic (actually a very common pseudo scientist tactic), declaring that the side that proposes change is doing so for religious reasons, that BTW i a common talking point of followers of pseudoscience. And really, I do not think you are thinking well about calling what science reports a religion. It is really an acknowledgement that you are losing more than one debate:
Ok you cite some animated movie I never heard of and some meandering diatribe on religion in debate in a wall of text.
Do you think I care about what a bunch of blinkered specialists have to say. They think that because they’ve decided to spend their entire life on one topic that they can use government violence to cow 7 billion people into submission and subdue human prosperity to inflate their fragile self worth.
If I got a government grant to study the best cheese for society, should I be allowed to turn the guns at society’s producers to justify my existence?
This thread has taken the strangest turn I could possibly imagine. It’s like “colorless green worms sleep furiously” has become legitimate political discourse.
Climate change will catastrophically impact our environment, geography, and economy. It’ll lead to droughts, crop failures, deaths, and global conflicts.
This goes back to the first part of my response, which is that the media distorts reality. And it’s not just Faux News - CNN used to be a credible news gathering organization but it became Fox Light. Most corporate news organizations aren’t interested in pointing out that both sides don’t do it because they’re commercially oriented and they don’t want to piss off viewers and advertisers – take, for instance, the recent example of conservative newspaper endorsements and the vicious backlash against them.
Your point about republicans and racism is well taken, and I agree – it has become a haven for racists. I don’t think that all republicans intended it for it to be that party. I think most are just firm believers in Darwinistic sociopath capitalism. Unfortunately, though, the GOP has become that party. The moderates, the reasonable republicans are being pushed to the side. Paul Ryan’s example makes it pretty clear that if republicans want to remain in the party, they will have to capitulate to the demands of the alt-right.
Going off on a tangent here, but if John McCain somehow wins, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him defect from the GOP and become an independent or even a Democrat. I think he’s really become a lousy senator in terms of policy but I still see a shred of decency there from time to time.
“if John McCain somehow wins”? Kind of looks like he has it locked down. There’s not a ton of polling but he’s had a double digit lead for months with the last Emerson poll from a few days ago putting him +16. I somehow doubt he’s jumping parties. It could be his last term considering his age, so I guess you never know but…
A part of me wishes I could find this sort of thing really funny … or maybe really sad.
Instead it just pisses me off. How many people will believe that Trump lost because millions of Mexicans flocked over the border to illegally cast a ballot in our election?
On the positive side, I guess, maybe some Trump supporters who believe this aren’t registered to vote themselves and will show up at the polls believing that since Mexicans can vote, surely they can too.