Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread

Oh, sweat!

I think your general approach here has been reasonable and some of the attacks a little overboard at times. I don’t see you ‘defending’ anything you shouldn’t be.

But in this case my answer would be who knows?

Your assumption could be true, but seems to me possibly the general counterculture theme (which is so embedded now) that attacks traditional norms by associating them with hypocrisy and immorality. IOW who says it’s less likely that rich powerful women, non-whites, and/or openly LGBT people, besides younger rich powerful white men, would act abusively wrt sex than older rich powerful ostensibly straight white men? (the reasonable profile for 'typical powerful men who came of age in ‘50’s’ also includes those things I think)

I’d agree things which might be plausibly construed as sexual harassment are more generation specific, because the definition of ‘playful banter’ v. harassment has changed. Likewise the perception of ‘power imbalance’ in a romantic relationship initiated in a work setting (that standard has shimmied around actually, first with ‘progress’, then w/ the perceived need of many to excuse that aspect of the Clinton/Lewinsky scandal, so I don’t know where it stands now). But the definition of sexual assault hasn’t changed as much and I don’t have evidence or experience* (resisting as best I can the tendency we all have to subconsciously at least offer fictional TV shows/movies as evidence) to say how common it was or is by rich powerful people of various types to sexually assault other people.

*I’ve known powerful guys in pure economic terms, though not celebrities. But it’s not a scientific sample nor am I sure I knew everything about them.

What about the little guy in all this? What will happen to Billy Bush? Is he going to be dumped by, whatever it is that show is that he does about celebrities?

Agreed – sorry but I just don’t respect McCain the way I once did. He has a shred of decency relative to some of the bags of nuts in his party but that’s not saying much. Arizona needs a fresh start. No more Arpaio. No more Mccain. No more red state.

Sure, but the right issue also helps.

You jump the ship but you look decent doing it.

Favorite signs at CNN reporting on Trumpy Wumpy’s Tower emergence:

  1. This Sign Is YUUUUGE! :smiley: :smiley:

  2. Hillary Did Hurricane Matthew :smiley:

  3. Republican Party __ Democrat Party __ Pizza Party X TWitter BobC7900

4)ICKY TRUMP

  1. The Onion is the only reliable news source!

  2. Student Debt Sucky!

These are on the Hillary side of the street. :smiley: Classic!

I wonder how many journalists hate Trump? Usually the weekend is a time for relaxation and NOT to go into full on overtime.

Attacks on the Gold Star family was the perfect moment for McCain if he wanted to make a statement. This was joining the crowd of fleeing rats IMO.

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According to Forbes, they’re 25 Grand Bars tops

Yes. They can’t expel Trump and expect to hold on to Senate and House seats. Trump’s rabid fans will work hard to revenge the loss of their idol by defeating GOP candidates across the board.

They need Trump to step aside and to tell his fans to vote for GOP candidates, including the new GOP Presidential ticket of Paul Ryan/Mike Pence.

Trump will do this for money. But it will have to be a lot of money. The Kochs, Murdoch, Adelson, and all the usual donors will be asked to cough up a sum sufficient to rid the GOP of this turbulent clown.

First, he will ask for $100 billion and for Ivanka to take his place on the ticket. (She will be 35 at the end of this month.) They will say ‘no.’

Second, he will say he’ll accept $50 billion as long as they let Donald, Jr. take his place on the ticket. They will say ‘no.’

In the end he will accept $10 billion and will agree to tell his supporters to support “whoever” the GOP wants. His name will remain on the ballots but the electors, assured that being “faithless” won’t carry any legal or career consequences, will vote for Ryan/Pence.

And Trump will finally, for real, have ten billion dollars.

On which he will pay ZERO federal income tax!

The current lead story on CNN.com is a greatest hits of his various interview soundbites on Howard Stern throughout the decades. Including him not objecting to Stern calling Ivanka a “piece of ass” in 2006, Trump saying that a woman hitting age 35 is “check-out time” for him, Trump hinting that he has had sex with Miss Universe contestants during the time that he ran the pageant, and Trump indicating shock at the thought that Stern was faithful in his marriage (though with this sounding like Trump was shocked at the thought of generally remaining faithful to a spouse).

My mother watches The Today Show so I know that Bush was hired by them with a certain amount of fanfare, fairly recently, as a host/interviewer.

My guess is that he won’t be there on Monday. Possibly something will be said (a la ‘he won’t be with us due to family issues’); more likely no reference will be made to him at all.

No doubt.

Even if he has no losses carried over to cover it, he’ll require that they pay him enough so that he’ll net the $10 billion.

Pence should withdraw and Billy should replace him. Then we would have a Trump Bush ticket. As somebody here already said - Make America Grope Again.

iiandyiiii broke this story to us in post 503 just before 3:30PM yesterday. The thread has grown almost twelve pages since then. That’s faster than any thread growth I’ve seen, with the possible exception of the first 9/11 thread.

Your link goes to The AZ Republic.

John McCain - *“Cindy and I will not vote for Donald Trump. I have never voted for a Democratic presidential candidate and we will not vote for Hillary Clinton. We will write in the name of some good conservative Republican who is qualified to be President.” *

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Good luck finding one of those, bucko!

He has flaws and there are things about him I don’t like, but I just don’t see him drinking the Kool-Aid. There’s more to him than that and I almost feel proud of him that he’d
step up and say that. I’m sure that’s more than he’d ever say about me if he ever read me, but its not about me. Good for you, Mr. S.

Don’t be so sure. Some of his more base “base” have shown violence and bat-shit-craziness during rallies. If she comes forward, I’m just not sure the government could protect her.
Who is to say that a local political group wouldn’t just organize a flash mob “parking lot rally” blocking all the roads in her town (GWB Playbook) with cars and a sniper would climb a tree somewhere?

Police can’t protect you if they can’t get to you.

Afterwards, a flash mob message goes out “protest over” and they’ll all drive off into the sunset.
The ones who get stopped? “Oh, I was just here for the protest. We have the right to protest, don’t we…?”
cue violins and lawyers conveniently both on call and on speed dial

If Pence quits… I guess its Chris Christie? He already knows the McDonalds order by heart…

Until the Very End of his Time On This Earth, I hope every woman who sees Trump trying to schmooze another woman pulls a box of Tic Tacs out of her purse and rattles it in his face.

By his standards. Which are evidently low.