Lincoln freed the slaves. His private views of slavery were not identical to his public views on slavery. And he’s Honest Abe to this day.
Sorry, I misread your post and overlooked the “not.” My apologies. I agree with you.
Must, have, more, coffee…
In that case, I take back all the private insults that I thought up, but didn’t publicly post!
Marketing. Besides, I knew Lincoln. Abe Lincoln was a friend of mine. HRC is no Abe Lincoln.
You are actually going to say that you find liars to be trustworthy? If so, I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree on that…
So, when you like the differing public vs. private opinions, it’s marketing. But, when you don’t, it’s lying. That’s convenient.
The Huntsville (Alabama) Times endorses (or rather, eviscerates Trump) in a state that’s been as red as can be.
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I’ve never called Lincoln “Honest Abe”. Is it your contention that marketing has never shaped the public’s option about something?
Touched by an Asshole has a nice ring to it.
Donald supporters on various forums are showing their true fascist colors: Calling republicans that have dis-endorsed Trump ‘Traitors’ and ‘Disloyal’. Sorry, but when a nominee wins a Primary (and by a plurality, not even a majority) it doesn’t mean the entire party swears allegiance to them. It doesn’t work that way and it was never meant to work that way.
As a leader Trump was supposed to lead his party to a victory. If he fails to do that through his own mistakes and failings (both present and past) then he can and should expect the party to disown him. That’s politics baby.
In my defense, I had just come from the Pit, where outrageously wrong statements are more to be expected. 
I’m not sure why you’re quoting me, when you seem to be disagreeing with someone else entirely.
Trump is in a dark, desperate frame of mind. He retweeted a brand new Juanita Broaddrick Bill Clinton rape accusation video this morning. He is going to get nasty in tonight’s debate and it will backfire on him “big league.”
Most telling is the NYT article: Inside Trump Tower, an Increasingly Upset and Alone Donald Trump - The New York Times
He is losing support of the two main women in his life.
Ivanka is his pride and joy. He can hardly remember his other kids’ names but he praises her in every interview. But Ivanka, his ambassador to women, is not with him in Trump Tower with the rest of the inner circle. The “piece of ass” Stern interview on cnn.com probably didn’t help things.
The article also mentions Melania’s “lack of interest in appearing on camera” to say she supports Donald despite his behavior. She is probably working on an exit strategy from the marriage. She just found out that when her husband is away on “business,” he is actually kissing and grabbing p___.
Trump will be in a bad state of mind. Not only is he probably going to get sleazy about Bill, he probably hasn’t done any traditional debate prep since the scandal broke. On a good day, he has trouble coming up with coherent thoughts on the Brexit, North Korea, Syria, etc. Expect lots of incoherent rambling tonight.
I most sincerely doubt she “just” found that out.
I can’t imagine that’s much of a surprise to her.
You made a statement about my personal beliefs. I disabused you of the mistake you made.
Now, do you want to talk about the trustworthiness of liars or not? I don’t trust them. YMMV.
She’s probably not shocked but it is still a humiliation for her that the world knows her husband is chasing after married women and bragging about getting away with sex assault. She is probably thinking about getting out of this circus and starting a new life.
My impression (second- if not third-hand) is that a fair number of wives of wealthy philanderers have something of a “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy going on: as long as her philandering husband doesn’t rub her nose in his indiscretions, she’s willing to turn a blind eye. The betrayal doesn’t come with the fucking, it comes with the public shaming that comes with being cheating on.
I have a hard time believing that this any of this is a revelation to either Ivanka or Melania Trump. It’s really rather hard to imagine Trump pulling off, or even trying for, a hidden life. Whether they hate it or mutely tolerate it ( or both ), I suspect it is something they long ago grew to live with, one way or another. If they hadn’t, they wouldn’t have stuck with him all these years. The public humiliation aspect on the other hand might be generating fresher wounds.
But now she’s been publicly embarrassed by it.
And it’s been revealed that even when newly married to her, he was still doing it.
ETA:And Tamerlane and **LHoD **beat me to it.
My actual, non controversial opinion as copied from above:
Or do you want to continue disagreeing with the strawman, who is apparently obsessed with marketing, who exists solely in your head?