See, I thought it was Clive my neighbors cat. I always suspected something.
"I guess “better late than never” would be an apt description of the news. "
Why? Of what particular interest to you are the sexual predilections, historic or otherwise, of an 80 year old?
Apparently it is “news” and of interest to some folks as it is a topic here (social media), but is that because it it Clive Davis? Or do you see doddering old men on the street and wonder if they engaged in anal sex in the 80s?
Well, I can’t speak for DMark, but ISTM that if we’re going to have celebrity gossip interviews where celebrities chatter about their personal relationships, at least the celebrities shouldn’t have to pretend that any relationship they might have with a member of the same sex doesn’t exist out of fear that being honest about such a relationship might prove disastrous for their careers, not to mention their personal safety.
Yes, it’s a pity that it took so long for our society to get to the point where a successful and presumably respectable businessman can publicly admit to something as innocuous as having a same-sex relationship with a fellow consenting adult without having to worry about serious repercussions in his career and his life. But better late than never.
Pssst: same-sex relationships between males do not necessarily involve anal sex. Some gay guys don’t like it and/or prefer other sexual activities.
I don’t think it is a pity it took so long for our society to get to the point where people make news announcements about their sex partners - I think it’s a shame.
What business is it of yours or mine or anyone’s who’s boinking who - or possibly not engaging in boinking as you insist upon noting.
“Some gay guys don’t like it and/or prefer other sexual activities.”
Even better - a hypothetical dispute about which sex acts some stranger to you may have engaged in decades ago. Allow me to reply - psst - some people, gay or straight do like it. Some don’t care for intercourse of any sort apparently, but since the topic forced upon the public is sex that this geriatric once had it is not an extraordinary presumption that he engaged in sex.
Possibly he wouldn’t have deemed it newsworthy if all he did was get a blowjob in a men’s room…
Who cares about his sexual orientation - Kelly Clarkson says he was mean to her. :mad: stompy foot
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It’s a necessary step in the evolution of our society. So I welcome that it’s happening. It means things are getting better.
Oh, I see. Your purpose in participating in this thread started for the purpose of discussing the voluntary public revelations of a particular celebrity about his personal life is simply to complain that the personal lives of celebrities are nobody else’s business.
I believe this is known as “threadshitting”.
If you don’t like celebrity “TMI interviews” or online conversations about them, then by all means feel free to avoid them—we’re not going to chase after you and insist that you participate. But it’s kind of a dick move to jump into a thread whose subject matter you disapprove of just to announce that you disapprove of it.
Well, the thread title was unambiguous - Celebrity + Coming Out.
So, by the fact that you clicked on the thread, read it, and felt the necessity to comment upon the fact, shows that YOU were obviously one of the “some folks” interested enough in the “sexual predilections, historic or otherwise, of an 80 year old”. Hugh Hefner just recently got married to a tot, and that made news - were you equally riled up and graphically ranting about him pounding his meat in virgin territory?
I am old enough to remember Clive Davis as a true maker and shaker in the music industry, and he still is. So if the story had been that he had cancer, or that he fired his entire staff, or that he bought out iTunes - all would have been of interest to me. The fact that he has come out is also of equal interest - simply because he has been an influential public figure for many decades and I am interested in what makes him tick.
And yes, as a Gay man this did have some significance to me. I find it interesting that older men in the public eye who have had to live their lives in secret are now finally finding the courage to come out. It is one thing for a 20 year old celebrity to do so - they have no memory of the the days you could be arrested or ruining your entire career in doing so. But for people like Clive Davis (or the recent news about Jim Nabors marrying his partner), this is a historical social breakthrough. For me at least, this further shows that times are changing and even those who have been terrified for decades of their “secret” coming out are no longer afraid of being honest. For someone his age to do so speaks volumes on our current level of social acceptance.
That’s who I thought of at first. I was wondering why he was suddenly bi instead of gay.