aight. here’s the deal. read the local weekly (that doesn’t carry cecil) and they had an article talking about http://www.clonejesus.com . and it looks like these people are serious.
but they also say there are relics scattered around the world that have elements, or samples, of jesus’ blood. aside from the shroud of turin, what are these? i’ve heard of other artifacts that have saint’s blood, or bones, but parts of jesus?
There is no proof that any religious artifacts are actually things that Christ had contact with unless the following equation is true:
A whole bunch of faith = proof
The site linked above is about the funniest thing I ever read. I just finished e-mailing links to all my friends. If the people behind that site meant it to be funny, they are geniuses.
One of the many humerous things on that site was that one of the religous artifacts from which DNA could be obtained was Jesus’s foreskin. I wonder what that looks like. Who was holding onto it before Jesus made it big in his late twenties/early thities. More importantly, why would they do such a thing. Unless there’s some Jewish custom which dictates saving a foreskin, I can’t imagine why anyone would.
This, in no way, was intended as an answer to the OP. I just needed to work on my typing.
crap. i forgot to say i don’t believe in jesus as a deity, or anything like that, or that the shroud of turin actually contains blood (unless it was used in paint). i just thought their argument was interesting, and was wondering if there are artifacts that people BELIEVE to be parts o’ jesus…
You are great Bear_Nenno. You are now officially my husbear. j/k hehhe That was too funny. I would love to see a Twisty Christ.
I think part of the idea of the Shroud of Turin being an actual shroud is because it was more accurately portrayed type of art than was readily known at the time. I don’t think it is really Jesus per se, but who knows. Anyway, I don’t think it was painted as at the time of its discovery I believe the art techniques that would be required to make a realistic (painting with perspective) painting were not developed. I could be wrong as I never bothered to look into it.
This issue raises some very interesting legal and financial issues. The following comments are from a much better lawyer than me.
This group is looking for donations, which means they couldn’t even get Venture Capital funding in this market.
If they make a “better Jesus” who owns the Intellectual Property rights ?
In cloning, they usually make several attempts at the same time, so there could be a second second coming, or a second coming once removed, or a tie for second coming.
To quote Don Tapscot, His second coming would “disintermediate” the Church(es), all of which would be left having to find new “value-add for their retention proposition”. As the “value chain was shortened”, His brand would become “consumer direct”, thus eliminating the need for those who have been disintermediated to own industrial assets (such as real estate/buildings) that were necessary to bring the consumers together.
Lastly, under several international cultural artifact and human remains treaties, the governing law for the control over His remains and the cloned person would be the domicile of the deceased at the time of death and the origin of the found remains… which would be the present States of Israel and Italy (for the most part), respectively, …which is pretty much the source of the legal jurisdictional trouble that got Him into hot water the first time around !
hopefully that’ll work…if not, go to http://www.fairfieldweekly.com and search for the story. or click news in the left column.
the story gives reactions from god folks. basically, no, it wouldn’t be jesus. it’s be jesus’ twin brother, born 2000 years or so late. ‘god’ would have to annoint him with special powers, like s/he did in the good ol’ days.