College Football Belt -- Who's next?

See http://collegefootballbelt.com/index.htm for full details of The Belt including


 
Lineage of Champions -- SEC Recent History 

Champion  Successful Defenses  Date Belt Won  Date Belt Lost
 
Auburn             1             12/4/2010   
South Carolina     2             11/13/2010     12/4/2010 
Florida            1             10/30/2010     11/13/2010 
Georgia            0             10/23/2010     10/30/2010 
Kentucky           0             10/16/2010     10/23/2010 
South Carolina     0             10/9/2010      10/16/2010 
Alabama            6             12/5/2009      10/9/2010 
Florida           12             1/8/2009       12/5/2009 


The next dates and teams in position to relieve Auburn of The Belt are:


 
2011 Auburn Tigers Football Schedule 

Date/Time      Opponent 
Sat 09/03/11 Utah State   
Sat 09/10/11 Mississippi State   
Sat 09/17/11 at Clemson   
Sat 09/24/11 Florida Atlantic   
Sat 10/01/11 at South Carolina   
Sat 10/08/11 at Arkansas  
Sat 10/15/11 Florida   
Sat 10/22/11 at LSU   
Sat 10/29/11 Ole Miss   
Sat 11/05/11 Samford   
Sat 11/12/11 at Georgia   
Sat 11/19/11 Open Date --- --- 
Sat 11/26/11 Alabama   
Sat 12/03/11 SEC Championship 


Pick the team most likely to become the new owner. (Poll to follow)

Assuming Cam and Fairley go to the NFL, South Carolina will probably be the first true test game for Auburn. I sure hope Clemson doesn’t take it back to ACC. It could be passed around that conference more than the SEC this year.

It looks like a done deal for Cam and Nick to be playing on Sundays this next season, along with 20 other seniors who helped make this past year so special. AU fans can only hope that some of the magic came from the guys remaining and the coaching staff.

I have yet to vote in the poll because I suspect that would be tantamount to a jinx! But I think Miss State has a good enough chance that The Belt might change hands even that early. If not, and assuming USCe puts any special emphasis on The Belt’s significance, Spurrier might have a large chip on those guys’ shoulders by that place in the season. They could play the revenge card and grab it again for the third time in 13 months. I need to check to see if that would constitute a Belt record!

Handing it over to Clemson would be an interesting development, since it could be November before the SEC could even have another crack at it. See http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/teams/ccl

It may be obvious by now, what with my posting several threads with reference to the College Football Belt, but until we have a logical playoff system in place, one free of the dependence on polls and computers, I see The Belt as a good way of adding some suspense to the football season, at least in the FBS division.

I have noticed a few others talking The Belt up in other message boards. Maybe it could catch on, especially if the BCS-Haters would hop on the bandwagon. Maybe Tim Brando could add it to his litany! :slight_smile:

Clemson, Auburn is not going to be very good in 2011. They are losing nearly everybody.

I hear you, man. Isn’t there at least one Miss State fan who thinks they can beat the place that stole Cam from them? Mullen ought to have at least as big a chip to load his guys down with as Spurrier does.

BTW, I have only done a cursory check of The Belt’s history page and have yet to find a team that held it three times (separate times, not a continuation of the same series of defenses) in short succession. The span from 1989-1996, between Florida State’s 9 and BYU’s 7, saw many teams having momentary possession of it, but I didn’t spot any “three-peats.”

See if I missed one at http://collegefootballbelt.com/Seasons.htm

If Oakminster sees the thread, he will probably be a ‘homer’ and pick the Bulldogs. I would have picked them if the game was in Starkville.

Southern Cal had the belt 3 times in less than 3 years in the early 90’s.

Yes indeed. I think the Bulldogs are on the upswing under Mullen, and will open the season with a lot of momentum from absolutely crushing Michigan in the Gator Bowl. I’m optimist enough that I even hold out hopes that they may contend for the SEC Title…and if they win it, also claim that less significant BCS thingy that’s become little more than a coronation for the SEC Champion…:smiley:

Way to go, Oak. Casual observers might get the impression that the SEC fans are getting arrogant and boastful – if they didn’t know any better. :slight_smile:

How many more SEC teams need to win the BCSNCG before they (BCS PTB) decide your solution makes better sense?

Which remaining team would constitute the "Last Straw?



  Southeastern 

 East Division 

South Carolina (22)         5-3 9-5   
Georgia                     3-5 6-7   
Kentucky                    2-6 6-7   
Vanderbilt                  1-7 2-10  
 
 West Division 
 
Arkansas (12)               6-2 10-3   
Mississippi State (15)      4-4 9-4   
Mississippi                 1-7 4-8


Indeed they did! Nov/90-Nov/92 and during that span both Washington and Baylor defended their claims more than once each.

Would it be extra cool if USCe outdid USCw in this category?

That would save a lot of time, and a lot of money.

Go Gators!

Vandy. The day Vandy takes the SEC and then destroys “Ohio State/Southern Cal/whoever” is the day the SEC officially moves to the NFL and leaves college football to the amateurs.

If it lasted that long, that would certainly do it. If a team whose last winning season was 2008 with a 7-6 record, and before that was 1982 with an 8-4, and whose championship years were before the SEC came into being ( Welcome cfbdatawarehouse.com - BlueHost.com ) were to take all the marbles, I’d vote that the BCS was done as a concept!

Getting to the SEC championship would be fantastic. Winning it, unreal.

I just had a heavy thought. For Georgia or Alabama to expect to take The Belt from Auburn they’d have to be facing a team that already had at least 10 wins!

Of course The Belt could already have changed hands before either of them faced Auburn, but to take it on the field from Auburn would be a big deal, I suggest.

It might make for some fun scenarios to have The Belt to change hands every week and still wind up in the SEC in time for the SECCG. Wonder how many paths it could take and still have that happen.

Another challenge: find a way for the Pac-10 or Big-10 to get it this year!

Auburn has no chance of a repeat…will lose early and then lose often. Perhaps a 7-5 season tops with Jesus Christ and Leon Lett Jr off to the pros for a reality check…their most significant losses will in the O-line who were the real reason for the teams success this year.
Next years BCS champion will be Oklahoma(returning 10 starters on offense alone)…they’ll play and whoop some 2 loss S.E.C team riding the s.e.c fad into the big game. With Florida and now Alabama graduating the last of its players that really made the S.E.C great the past 4 years its back to normal.
Mississippi State? Michigan had no place to be playing on New years Day…notoriously this years worst defense in the country…a lot of offenses Michigan played this year looked like juggernauts.

This thread is about the College Football Belt – which is described in the link in the OP. The issue here is which team (SEC or otherwise) will take The Belt from Auburn by beating them on the field. The comments about next year’s BCS winner are fine but they don’t bear on the issue in this thread.

You might enjoy finding a path trough the various schedules that lead from Auburn to Oklahoma just to see how soon Oklahoma will have a shot at The Belt.

At least Mississippi State has a realistic shot at The Belt, what with playing Auburn early enough to grab it before somebody more likely to deserve it does. Then the task will be to see who’s most apt to grab it from them, and so on and so on.

I’d suspect it’s more likely to be grabbed by another SEC team than Oklahoma, but that’s just a guess. Just how long that next SEC team can keep it is more the issue here.

It will be equally challenging to see how quickly some other pre-season Top 25 team will have a legitimate chance to hold The Belt for a week or so. If nothing else, it’s something to think about until September! :slight_smile:

Just in case you want to accept the challenge of finding a path through the schedules from Auburn to some other team, one source for next year’s schedules is http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/Sked2011.htm

Another source where the whole SEC’s schedules can be seen at once is
http://secfootball.itgo.com/2011schedule.html

If you know of an even easier reference for such work please post a link here.

And if you know of a website that goes into the future the way this one does into the past, that would be great info to share, too.
http://www.cfbanalyzer.com/cgi-bin/year.cgi?year=2010

Here’s another “common opponents” approach that has some future-looking components. I have yet to figure how to make it “all future” and maybe you can’t, but it’s worth looking at perhaps.

http://theorynine.com/media/games/ncaa-football-common-opponents/

Now I get the jist of this “belt” thing. Yeah…Miss St will take it early n it will most likely flop around the 4.E.C remainder of the season as the S.E.C don’t typically play any legit non-conference games…it will probly stay their till 201e

Notice how if MSU grabs it from Auburn and turns right around the next week and loses it to LSU, that LSU has the opportunity to lose it to WVU the next week. See http://secfootball.itgo.com/2011schedule.html for other such fun scenarios. Except for Utah State lucking up and grabbing it straightaway in the first week, this is the quickest I have found to get it OOC. Did I miss something quicker?

I’m going to make it a project to find how quickly Oklahoma could get it. Maybe somebody can do something similar for Oregon or Ohio State.

This is where having an overview of all schools’ schedules in one place could be like a giant chessboard or something. Wouldn’t this give AD’s fits trying to schedule so that they’d have maximum chance to get The Belt back after losing it?

Just wondering, did you just join the SDMB so you can trash the SEC?

The SEC typically plays more non Conference games against BCS Conference Teams than the Big 10 and Big 12 (on a per team basis).