College football match-ups

Your first question is just irrelevant. Texas and Okla State are besides the point in the Big 10/vs SEC debate. If you want to include them, then knock yourself out.

As for UNLV, it is generally a below average team. So what?

I don’t have a problem with the Big 10 teams playing the cremepuffs. Almost all BCS schools have their share of cupcakes.

My beef: The entire Big 10 conference (except ILL) were playing these games on the same weekend. IMO, the Big 10 should be have started their conference schedule already. they could have featured some big conference games to give itself some national exposure.

Look what the SEC has done already. This past weekend, Bama @ Ark. USC @ Aub. Last weekend, UF @ UT, Ark @ UGA. Two week ago, UGA @ USC. Conference games with some national attention.

The Big 10 compresses all their conference games into a 9 week window. And IMO, it dilutes their product.

That post was supposed to be in reply to Lamar Mundane, my mistake.

He was proud that one of the Big 10 non-conference games was against UNLV. and I am trying to figure why he is so proud of UNLV.

When I brought up Nebraska, I was counting OOC BCS games by the Big 10 and SEC. to make the comparison fair, I added Nebraska so both conference would have 12 teams.

The facts is: Missouri is NOT an Out Of Conference game for Nebraska.

I’m a Badgers fan and I’m not going to claim the Badgers OOC schedule is much to crow about. A couple years back they begged out of a game with Virginia Tech. With the Big 10+2 going to a 9 game conference schedule mid-decade the conference should get tougher to win, but I can’t imagine that most of the teams won’t stop scheduling a FCS cupcake for one of those 3 OOC games.

To get a sense of the differences between Wisconsin and Tennessee and the teams they have met since 2000, compare:

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I believe an unbiased eye will see as many hyphenated and directional schools in the Big 10 region as there are in the south.

I think the Big 10 supporters would be happier if UT-Martin was renamed Western Tennessee University like the Michigan school in Kalamazoo.

They would like UL-Monroe to be renamed Monroe State like that the State supported university called Kent St. Just when did the USA get a state called Kent? How many representatives does it have in US House? What’s it capital?

Maybe they would prefer UAB be called Alabama U. Like the school in in Athens, OH. called Ohio University.

Yes, these arguments are silly, just like the argument of hyphenated schools. The fact is,UT-Martin and UL-Monore and UAB are part of a state University system, just like Western Michigan, Kent State and Ohio University.

Here’s some additional comparison data for the Tennessee-Wisconsin issue.

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Tennessee Records by Conference 
(Current Conference Membership)
 
Division I-A Conferences 
 
Conference               Win Loss Tie Pct.  PF   PA  Delta  

Atlantic Coast Conference   7  4 0 0.63636  248  235   13 
Big 12 Conference           3  3 1 0.50000  211  163   48 
Big East Conference         6  0 0 1.00000  215   77  138 
Big Ten Conference          4  3 0 0.57143  174  169    5 
Conference USA             21  1 0 0.95455  746  317  429 
Division I-A Independent    3  3 0 0.50000  164  158    6 
Mid-American Conference     3  0 0 1.00000   88   52   36 
Mountain West Conference    5  1 0 0.83333  231   87  144 
Pacific-10 Conference       5  4 0 0.55556  233  203   30 
Southeastern Conference   115 47 1 0.70859 4752 3193 1559 
Sun Belt Conference         6  0 0 1.00000  304   50  254 
Western Athletic Conference 3  0 0 1.00000  116   23   93  
 
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Wisconsin Records by Conference 
(Current Conference Membership)

Division I-A Conferences 
 
Conference                 Win Loss Tie Pct.  PF  PA  Delta  

Atlantic Coast Conference    5  1 0 0.83333  145  125 20 
Big 12 Conference            3  2 0 0.60000   90  139 -49 
Big East Conference          4  2 0 0.66667  136  117 19 
Big Ten Conference          85 72 3 0.54063 3971 3562 409 
Conference USA               4  0 0 1.00000  151   36 115 
Mid-American Conference     18  1 0 0.94737  687  243 444 
Mountain West Conference     9  1 0 0.90000  288  111 177 
Pacific-10 Conference        9  3 1 0.73077  294  247 47 
Southeastern Conference      2  4 0 0.33333   99  130 -31 
Sun Belt Conference          1  0 0 1.00000   24    6 18 
Western Athletic Conference 10  1 0 0.90909  394  207 187  
 
Division I-AA Conferences 
 
Conference                        Win Loss Tie Pct.  PF  PA  Delta  

Great West Football Conference      1 0 0 1.00000 36 35  1 
Missouri Valley Football Conference 2 0 0 1.00000 65 23 42 
Ohio Valley Conference              1 0 0 1.00000 49 10 39 
Southern Conference                 2 0 0 1.00000 89 45 44 


Please note that there is no section for Tennessee labeled:
Division I-AA Conferences

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and
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Read more: Hawk expects Georgia’s best shot Saturday - The Denver Post Hawk expects Georgia’s best shot Saturday – The Denver Post

Just for the record, since Hawkins became head coach in 2006, Colorado has made four trips east of the Mississippi:



L 09-23-2006  13 Georgia       14  Athens, GA
L 09-27-2008  21 Florida St.   39  Jacksonville, FL
L 09-11-2009  38 Toledo (OH)   54  Toledo, OH
L 10-01-2009  24 West Virginia 35  Morgantown, WV


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Granted, the Georgia travel record west of the Mississippi is far from impressive, but I question the accuracy of

I doubt that Hawkins meant for his four trips as head coach to be seen in stark comparison to Georgia’s 75-year history. But I could be wrong.

By the way, are we now to interpret Georgia’s unwillingness to travel out of the South as the SEC’s refusal to play schools outside the South?

I don’t know what you’re questioning. Four times in 75 years is a pretty strong indication that they don’t travel. Colorado, on the other hand, since 2003 has played road games at FL. State twice, at Miami (FL), at Georgia, at Toledo, at Washington State, at Arizona State, and at Cal. They play at Ohio State next year. That’s a strong indication that the philosophy at CU is that travelling to play is a good thing, and they’re willing to play tough games.

These games are usually scheduled years in advance, so I don’t think Hawkins has had much input on the schedule, with the exception of Toledo, which I think was a last minute fill in.

In that same time frame, Florida hasn’t played a single OOC road game outside the state of Florida.

Once again your argument appears to be against Florida, not the SEC as a conference.

And I repeat my question:

[quote=“Lamar_Mundane, post:50, topic:554938”]

You seem to a have agenda against the University of Florida

For the record check out the Gator seasons of 1975, 1977, 1980, 1982, 1983, 1991 Seasons

And what is it about a home/home series against a OOC team that won a National Championship 1993, 1996, and 1999.

Discounting the Notre Dame series with USC, what other BCS team has an annual rivalry with an Out of Conference team that has won 3 National Championships in the last 20 years?

yes Florida does not leave the state of Florida for OOC games anymore. But there are two other in-state teams that have won five (5) National Championships in the last 20 years. Florida plays Florida State every year and occasionally play Miami in the regular season (2002, 2003, 2004).

I am sure the author means OOC, but UGA has been to Fayetteville Arkansas 4 times since 1992. Fayetteville Arkansas is West of the Mississippi.

And UGA also played a OOC road game in Stillwater OK last year.

And again, UGA has an annual rivalry with an OOC team, and won that won a National Title in 1990.

Just to clarify, notfrommensa, the quote function or your editing makes it look like the comment you refer to is mine. It is not mine, but that of Lamar Mundane instead.

It is hard, if not impossible, to defend Georgia’s and Florida’s OOC travels. I make no effort to do so. But to blame the SEC as a conference for these two schools’ actions is not fair, and smacks of an unwarranted bias.

You are correct Zeldar, I’m having a difficult time with my laptop. It was Lamar Mundane and his anti-florida rant that I was trying to quote.

Apologies to Zeldar.

We cool! :smiley:

Ok great, I am still waiting for Lamar Mundane to tell me why he thinks UNLV has a great football program.

To return to the OP’s main question/issue, I suspect there are quite a few of the 120 current FBS schools that have never met, but I would like to take the question a step further and suggest that there must be a school that has played regular season games with more of the 120 that any other school has.

Given the long history back into the 19th Century, and the lack of a simplified season-by-season conference and out-of-conference reporting, I’m wondering what time frame would be most meaningful to check out.

If 20, 30, 40 or 50 years would do the job convincingly, I think we could look through the data at Welcome cfbdatawarehouse.com - BlueHost.com and produce a reasonable answer.

Ideas?

I certainly wouldn’t want to research every team, but I would be willing to summarize a conference. I will take the ACC.

I didn’t say they were a great team, I was using them to illustrate that Wisconsin travels to play OOC opponents.

I don’t have a bias against Florida, either. They’re just a particularly egregious example of what the SEC is known for. They don’t play outside of their region. Alabama doesn’t, Auburn doesn’t - the only one who seems to do anything is Tennessee, who schedules a home and home with a decent team. So once every other year they travel for an OOC game. The rest of the games follow the SEC pattern.