Good erotic romances benefit from good writing just like any other genre. Basically, erotic romances are romance novels with explicit sex added in. They are sometimes great reads, often mediocre reads, and all too often crappy reads … just like any other genre.
And a University education caters to market demand, as we all know.
Hence the debut courses Introduction to Butt Chugging and Twerking 101.
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I was going to take intro to BC, but the professor was TBA. I’m only taking it if the instructor is hot.
First Amendment protections are limited for high school students because they are minors and the schools are in loco parentis. That doesn’t apply to adult college students.
You’re right of course, the University system does not cater to market demands, and hence continues to send out hordes of theater majors who will spend the bulk of their working lives waiting tables, hordes of journalism majors who will spend the bulk of their lives blogging at home while working as administrative assistants, hordes of music students who will get the occasional weekend gig while they work as god knows what … it’s a wonderful system!
It’s shocking that the guy who had to have a special rule made for him on this board because he was unable to understand why bringing his sexual fantasies into every thread was inappropriate is now incapable of understanding why writing porn isn’t the focus of college creative writing classes.
Shocking.
Oh, be honest. Your mind isn’t boggled at all.
It is, though. You can tell - her eyes start rolling around independently.
This is just a statement of fact, though. Regardless of whatever else might be relevant to a particular social context, you can be certain that in every man’s mind somewhere, even if it’s momentarily in the background, is full of vaginas.
The great Groucho Marx is falsely attributed to have said, “I love my cigar, too, but I take it out of my mouth once in a while.” False or not, it’s a good quote. Similarly, I like dick, but it’s not like I think about it all the time. And I have no problem not thinking about the dick of the person directly in front of me.
But I’ll admit you did make me snicker. I imagine it like the dog in Far Side. The man is talking to the dog and all the dog hears is “BLAH BLAH BLAH GINGER BLAH BLAH BLAH”. Only it’s like “BLAH BLAH BLAH VAGINA BLAH BLAH BLAH”.
Also, if a college creative writing course only did what was hot right now we’d have been writing vampire stories last fall. And I for one am completely sick of vampires.
It is supposed to have been false? I’ve actually seem the footage.
Speaking from personal experience, That’s pretty much what it’s like.
Speaking as a writer and as an occasional instructor, I would say that a writing teacher should not be permitted to be offended by any piece of creative writing within the context of a class. Teachers should be helping writers break down their inhibitions, not putting up social barriers.
Creative writing is ultimately a completely selfish exercise. If you allow yourself to care about other people, you will fail as a creative writer. You have to be willing to rape, pillage, and burn down everyone and everything around you in your writing. And your teacher should be egging you on.
Okay. Do you think a publically funded school would get in trouble for imposing a work-suspension on an instructor who said sexually inappropriate things in a school?
You know what? I’m comfortable with the idea of no male sexual expression, maybe for a generation or two. We’ve got a 50-year old man who hasn’t yet figured out when sexual expression is inappropriate and various threads here indicate a lot of reasonably intelligent men have the same problem. It might be time to fall back and regroup.
I’d say when you use said assignments an excuse to hit on your teacher? If you can’t tell the difference between erotica and telling a person that you’re having sexual fantasies about them (in graphic detail) then you (generic you) have problems.
I also think it could be argued that an introductory course on creative writing isn’t the place for graphic erotica. A specific class, say, “Sex in Literature”, or a class BASED on writing more graphic material would be appropriate. Not because I have anything against erotica, but because I think most students would be turning in what amounts to poorly written fan fic type stories. Get the basics first.
Amen sister!
It’s just so laughable. If men really were this socially inept, they would be peeing in office buildings and forgetting to wear pants and stuff. But they don’t, because (magically!) they can figure out how to behave appropriately in any situation that doesn’t involve their sad little wieners. But we’re supposed to believe they just “don’t know better”. This asshole lived 50 years and didn’t drown in his fucking cereal bowl, he fucking well knew better. He just feels entitled, like so many other men, and he uses social cluelessness as an excuse.
How did this idiot manage to even apply for college if he’s this stupid, huh? How did men rule everything for thousands of years if they are incapable of reason as soon as they see a woman? And why is it that the supposed supporters of men are the ones who paint them as barely better than animals, incapable of acting better than a dog chasing a bitch in heat? I think men are capable of better, and I’m the man hater. Go figure :rolleyes:
I’m going to let the “sister” bit slide. 
It’s even worse. Men say they can’t understand women’s problem with them expressing male sexuality, but these are the exact same feelings most straight men feel when homosexual men are equally expressive, often even if it’s not directed at them. If a gay student had written a similar essay about the guy in the story and read it for the class, Mr. Hot For Teacher would be calling for the death penalty, not just expulsion. Most men know exactly how women feel on this issue, and their reactions are much more extreme than what women dole out towards them. I don’t see a lot of good-natured “boys will be boys” chuckling in that situation.
That you are hot is not a fact, it is an opinion. You, a professor in writing of all people, should know the difference between a fact and an opinion.
That said, in my experience, women who know they’re hot tend to be pains in the ass because they think every guy in the world only wants to talk to them for one reason. And they tend to be VERY condescending.
As for the Opening Post itself?
Personally, I reckon the university is best placed to say whether they were right or wrong to suspend the student. Only they know all the details. If they made the call, they have my support.
As for the 57 year old dude who wrote the essay? Poor judgement, overall. At 57 years of age, you’re not young anymore dude. Show some sense.
As for the Professor herself? She acted professionally it appears. She’s in the clear.
As for the women coming in here and turning it into a gender war? Blah Blah Blah.
As for the guys coming into this thread and suggesting the 57 year old dude did nothing inappropriate? Yeah, right. He knew what he was doing, and he deserved what he got.
I’ve never seen someone simultaneously try to be on all sides.