I will if I can summon up the energy. I realize that if this were a debate, it would be incumbent on me to give examples to support my comment. Seeing as this is the Pit, I’m inclined to let my comment stand alone. My goal was to express my annoyance at you, not to get into a debate.
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I disagree. The question I asked was reasonable. Maybe not crystal clear, but I clarified it a few posts later. Frankly, I’m not surprised that you perceive it as “ignorant idiocy”-- you’re so blinded by your own mishegas.
By the way, I read through the thread that was cited, and I do agree that The Ryan is being a bit trollish. Admittedly a bit disappointing, since I find Collounsbury much more annoying than The Ryan.
Ok, Monty. I have a copy of the Journal of Economic Literature (12/2001) next to me. Five lit reviews and 1 book review grace the cover. I’ll choose the one by Paul Samuelson as a test.
(Pick a number from 1-5, if you want me to look at another article.)
<flip, flip>
Crap. He has a total of 4 footnotes, only one of which alludes to a journal article. And that one says, “Because mainstream economists may not be proficient in simple 1960 Sraffa mechanics, a referee has persuaded me to add appendix 2…”
Ok, let’s try the article by A.B Krueger and Lindahl. Good. That has 45 footnotes. Let’s try, um #22-23 (half-way).
Number 22 doesn’t cite a specific article (it constrasts 2 datasets).
Number 23 says “Barro and Lee (1993) compare their education measure with…”
No page number in the footnotes; the reference shows pages 363-394 (which covers the journal article).
Again, such practice is fairly typical. It’s not a big deal to ask a reader to flip through an article.
Pity, I would rather look forward to a further opportunity - as if your mewling characterization of The Drooling Moron Troll as 'a bit trollish was not quite enough you stupid whinging fuck - of demostrating your general idiocy.
Your idiotic question was a prime example of the generalized ignorance in re even the most elementary notions of things outside of the US which irrates me here. It was fucking idiotic.
Good, maybe you can hold conversations with him, I am sure you have about the same level of analytical skills and knowledge to share with each other.
Meanwhile, have all fun with our own The Drooling Pseuo-Semantics Master. Perhaps he’ll try to parse Arabic once more for me. That would be entertaining.
Oh, {{{{Collounsbury}}}}, Sugarlump, thank you for cussin’ out that nasty troll The Ryan. I really didn’t feel like soiling my virtual paddle on his skanky ass.
The Ryan, you’re a pedantic twit, a troll, and a hypocrite. My question to you was an example of the kind of questioning you put others through, and you know very well how annoying it is when you’re on the receiving end of such bullshit. When I served you up some of the same shit you’ve been foisting on others, even you yourself had to admit that the kind of trollish behavior you engage in is “ridiculous.” You strike me as someone who has no interest whatsoever in educating yourself or in furthering the goal of fighting ignorance that structures the SDMB, and I seriously doubt if you will learn anything from the thrashing that you’re getting in this thread. That is truly a shame.
… which is why you don’t have an answer, and instead respond with insults? Your posts have an incredibly high invective to actual subsatance quotient. Do you really think that spewing several paragraphs of insults is an effective counterargument?
There’s a big difference between a “general point” and a specific accusation. If someone claims that I rejected a psychologist definition, I expect to see a quote of where I rejected the psychologist definition, not a link to the page where I allegedly did so. There’s a difference between a citation for a general idea, which in turn can be supported by a general cite, and a specific claim, which deserves a specific cite.
But since you insist on ignoring the intent of the question “Do you have a cite?”, I’ll use the question “Do you have proof?” instead. So, wring, do you have proof for your allegation?
clesetina
Presenting something which you do not actually believe just to annoy someone is the very definition of trollery, and you have just confessed to doing exactly that. Which means that you are a troll, and therefore a hypocrite, and quite possibly a twit. Apparently you misspelled “I’m” as “you’re”.
It is an indication of how baseless your position is that you have to resort to lies to support it. I did not admit that the behavior I engage in is ridiculous, I said claiming that my behavior is like the example you gave is ridiculous. A dictionary will tell you what “good” means. It will not tell you what “it” means.
I ask someone what they mean, and that’s evidence that I have no interest in educating myself?
[celestina puts her virtual paddle down, picks up a clue-by-four, and shuddering applies it to The Ryan’s hard head.]
Oooh, I must’ve really struck a nerve in The Ryan if I’ve got him insulting and slandering me right up in here in the Pit. Guess I was right. The Ryan isn’t here to learn. If he was, he would have learned NOT to mess with me. Oh well.
It would seem that all The Ryan knows how to do is twist folks’ words around and play games. Hmmphfff. Alright. You want to play, motherfucker? Well, come on then. I’ve been dealing with a lot of punks lately. I can handle one more. And in case you’re wondering, “motherfucker” is an insult addressed to you, The Ryan. I just insinuated that you like to fuck your mother, The Ryan. I don’t see how I can make myself any plainer, but I’ve no doubt you’ll still have questions as to what exactly I do mean and/or want to set the record straight on how often and in which positions you prefer to fuck your mother. Me cago en ti, conchudo.
Who is “clesetina?” For someone like The Ryan who is so focused on the accuracy of words and stuff, you’d think he could make the slightest effort to spell correctly the name of the person whom he’s trying to slander. The Ryan, you need to pull out that dictionary you’ve got shoved too far up your ass, wipe the shit off it, stop using your other hand to jerk off, and learn to spell.
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The Ryan, you’re a pedantic twit, a troll, and a hypocrite. My question to you was an example of the kind of questioning you put others through, and you know very well how annoying it is when you’re on the receiving end of such bullshit.
Well, I’m so very glad you can recognize yourself, The Ryan, now that I’ve held a mirror up to you and presented the face you continue to show to us Dopers. It isn’t pretty, is it? And actually, I wasn’t presenting something I don’t believe. I actually do believe you’re a troll, and I set out to present that belief to you in a manner that you understand only too well.
Oh dear. I see that you’re in dire need of clarification on some things so let me set the record straight. I have confessed to exposing you to the very bullshit you spew out to others in order to teach you a lesson, to have you get a good look at how you make others feel with your idiotic word games, and to have you make my point for me. And that point is that: The pedantic twittery you engage in with Dopers by asking them to clarify almost every word they utter is annoying, insulting to folks’ intelligence, and goes against the goals of educating people that the SDMB is predicated on. It is in essence trollish behavior on the part of someone whom I presume has some passing familiarity with the English language, and it is oh so lame. It is quite obvious that you know how to spell and write in English as you post in that language. I gave you every opportunity to respond to my request for clarification on what you meant by using a particular word just like you ask folks to define words that they use. Of course underneath that request for clarification is a deeper concern about why you feel it is necessary for you to engage in the behavior you do to the extent that you do it. Instead of stepping to the plate and answering my question, you dismissed me. When you dismissed me, I got upset and called your ass out. And it is only now that I’ve let you expose yourself—Didn’t anyone tell you that indecent exposure is against the law? Quit being a dick. We really don’t want to see your shriveled up manhood–that you’re going to come out of that cowardly shell you’ve been hiding under to spew even more bullshit. Hmphff.
Now that’s the funniest thing I’ve read today. Me? A troll? A twit and a hypocrite? For holding a mirror up to you and showing you to be the hypocrite that you are? I don’t think so. I wholeheartedly admit to being silly. And I’m damn proud of the fact that I’m silly. However, right now I’m annoyed by your slander and not amused in the least by your efforts to twist around what I’m saying, and I’ve long since been past tired of the word games you play with other Dopers.
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When I served you up some of the same shit you’ve been foisting on others, even you yourself had to admit that the kind of trollish behavior you engage in is “ridiculous.”
I wasn’t concerned about a dictionary. I was concerned by what you meant, and I was concerned that you see exactly how you come across to other Dopers who’ve been far more patient in trying to work with your sorry ass than I ever could be. And you’re wrong on another point. A dictionary will tell you what “it” means. According to the Merriam Webster Dictionary, “it” is: “that one—used as subject or direct object or indirect object of a verb or object of a preposition usually in reference to a lifeless thing . . . (p. 643) The definition goes on, but the gist of it is that, as any speaker of English will tell you, and as I’m sure you ought to know, “it” refers to a noun that has appeared before in the sentence or in a previous sentence. If one pays close enough attention to what is being said, then finding out what “it” refers to really is not difficult to do.
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You strike me as someone who has no interest whatsoever in educating yourself or in furthering the goal of fighting ignorance that structures the SDMB,
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I ask someone what they mean, and that’s evidence that I have no interest in educating myself?
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In your case and for all the reasons I’ve listed about your behavior, The Ryan, yes. Absolutely. Although I’m really upset with you right now, I still find that I do pity you. You’re just pathetic.
[celestina puts down the clue-by-four, sets fire to the poor now scrofulous thing, and goes to disinfect and fumigate herself thoroughly from her interactions with The Ryan.]
Unless somebody would like to comment on Collounsbury’s behavior, I really wish this thread would die. Although I must admit that The Ryan has the right to respond to the Celestina’s lengthy spiel in some way.
It must be irritating to have your pit thread stay active for an additional week for reasons mostly irrelevant to your own behavior.
Who is “clesetina?” For someone like The Ryan who is so focused on the accuracy of words and stuff, you’d think he could make the slightest effort to spell correctly the name of the person whom he’s trying to slander. The Ryan, you need to pull out that dictionary you’ve got shoved too far up your ass, wipe the shit off it, stop using your other hand to jerk off, and learn to spell.