Maybe. But I’d wager it’s no more than already screw up and get a company-grade “Drunk On Duty” article 15. Except of course, as you point out, hot pee is probably going to be handled more harshly–perhaps a field-grade or galaxy-grade–because it’s still a federal violation. Folks with clearances need to worry about pissing hot for more than just mj so they tend to stay clean by avoiding direct or contact highs anyway. And if soldiers smoke in spite of orders to the contrary, then they deserve whatever happens to them and if they’ve been in for any amount of time, will accept that. I think most commanders will only have to have one ass hanging from their wall to get the point across.
Well, I would think a reminder that they can still lose their job over it will be enough. Pot is already pretty available,especially in Colorado, and many 21 yr old soldiers probably already have to leave the room at a party when the air starts to get thick.
Good on you for taking the high road.
Monavis, the fact that you yourself don’t choose to smoke marijuana is not relevant to the current discussion, which is about a change in marijuana laws. If you wish to discuss the pros and cons (I gather you’re strong on the cons) of recreational drug use, start a new thread in Great Debates. You’re off-topic in this thread.
Everyone responding to monavis – this goes for you, too. Stop responding in this thread, but feel free to start a new thread in the appropriate forum if you have anything to say.
twickster, MPSIMS moderator
I’m in Seattle, WA and just saw that our county has begun dismissing misdemeanor marijuana possession cases. I thought not much would happen yet as the Liquor Control Board has until December 2013 to hammer out the details. I voted to legalize it for this reason, to clear the courts and jails of frivolous cases, so this is pretty cool.
Oops, can’t edit my previous post to add a little info. It’s legal to possess one ounce as of Dec. 6 for people 21 or older. The selling details are what the state has a year to work out.
King County dismissed 175 cases.
Has there been any talk in either state of a blanket pardon for past offenses?
Has anyone in those states heard or seen anything in their media regarding what I said earlier about Law Enforcement in other states cracking down on people leaving your state?
Cops in Post Falls and Lewiston, ID are probably salivating at the potential income.
…not sure if pun was intentional, but, :D…
I would bet that the likelihood of a blanket pardon for past marijuana possession offenses is about the same as the chances of combination head-shops and Amsterdam-style “coffeeshops” opening up in the lobbies of the state capitol buildings in Denver & Olympia.
I don’t see what they could do, except step up search procedures on traffic stops. I imagine a lot of LAWYERS are salivating at the thought of all the potential income. 
The right drug can make these things even more pleasurable.
What about those drugs that enhance your senses? Those are the best ones.
um… isn’t it already, even in spite of this week’s vote?
Yes. It is. Non-enforcement, or selective enforcement, of a law does not necessarily make that law go away. There is the ‘as-applied’ test, which aims to make it impossible to use a Constitutional law for purposes that the court has deemed discriminatory, but that test frequently fails to find its mark in the real world.
The feds don’t have the resources to completely take over busting every pothead in both or either state. Nor would the people stand for it. I gotta assume that Obama wouldn’t greenlight any kind of massive build-up or drain from other states and needs to do it either.
Doesn’t mean there won’t be busts, but they’ll likely concentrate on the big and public low hanging fruit.
Gov. Hickenlooper had a great quote - he pointed out that, regardless of Colorado’s vote, weed is still against federal law, “so don’t break out the Cheetos and Goldfish just yet.” Pretty good line from a politico. Sounds like he’s rocked the ganj a time or two in his life, probably to help deal with the burden of being named “Hickenlooper”.
As has been said by others, they’ll have more than enough to deal with when people begin smuggling the weed into other states. Cheyenne, Wyoming, which is an actual city (rare for Wyoming) and is practically on the border with Colorado, will be pretty hopping; New Mexico is pretty empty for hundreds of miles south of the Colorado border but this may well have an impact on the Mexican cartels’ business. Other states will likely have similar problems.
The Feds will have enough to deal with in the states that will help them prosecute marijuana-related offenses to do too much in the states that officially Just Don’t Care Anymore.
(And remember, kids: It’s possible to drive from southern New Mexico to northern Montana in two days with nothing but caffeine and a healthy distaste for the TSA.)
Yookeroo, apparently you missed my mod note:
Drop the subject in this thread.
Thanks,
twickster, MPSIMS moderator
To clarify, in Washington, as of December 6, adults 21 and up can have an ounce of usable bud, 16 ounces of solid products like space cake and magic brownies, and 72 liquid ounces of liquid products like cannabis colas. When I say “like” I mean as an example, not a guideline. So turns out 72 ounces of Green Dragon or a pint of hash oil count just the same as a sixer of a medicated soda.
I would recommend caution around Spokane though; I read that the chief criminal deputy prosecutor in Spokane County thinks that possession can only be of products from the state run stores, which is not the intended interpretation at all.
The truth is that a mind altering drug makes people do things they wouldn’t do under a normal circumstances, that is why they are illegal, and also to drive under them is or can be dangerous! My wondering was why people feel the need to use a drug to be happy, even though it can cause them and a lot of others problems. I have never in my 80+ years heard anyone regret not using drugs, but many who have used them? Nor did I imply people who use drugs or pot are ignorant that is your intrepretation, nor did I imply that all users of liquor or other drugs that are seldom used, harm people. One need go to a drug rehabilition center and see for one’s self. In my years I have known many people who lived a short life, had money problems etc. because of their drug use. also many who have stopped using and are glad they did. It is up to the individual person what and how he/ she wishs to spend their life!