Are you saying they were…
Deaf and dumb?
/sunglasses
YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Are you saying they were…
Deaf and dumb?
/sunglasses
YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Just posting to point out that, in California, “the pedestrian always has the right of way” is malarkey–“folk wisdom”, if you will. The pedestrian doesn’t always have the right of way in that state. Come to think of it, I’ve lived in many jurisdictions around the world and the pedestrian doesn’t automatically have the right of way in any of them.
Zombies got loogies?
Looks like the, uh, “zombies” didn’t have a permit (implying to me that the roads were not closed to car traffic), and were not any sort of official, organized thing but just a bunch of knuckleheads hanging out in the street.
Pedestrians generally have the right of way in marked and/or signaled pedestrian crossings and not otherwise; I’m willing to bet that they don’t have the right of way to just stand around obstructing traffic. On the other hand, you don’t get people out of your way by driving through them.
It looks to me like there’s an awful lot of fault to go around.
In Georgia pedestrian right-of-way is real, at least within a crosswalk:
A crosswalk exists at most intersections, whether marked as such or not. Outside of a cross walk it’s a bit more iffy.
How do you have an unmarked crosswalk?
A judge decides that someone hit was in an unmarked crosswalk, and hold the driver liable.
In seriousness, I think it depends on the state. In Illinois, it is generally any place where a sidewalk continues onto a road. However, there was a recent court ruling that appears to erode that definition somewhat. In that case, frankly, I sort of agree with the assessment that the driver shouldn’t be punished: The pedestrian was crossing a wide arterial street at an intersection from a side street with stop signs onto the artery (but others disagree, obviously).
In California, the rule for “unmarked crosswalks” is similar, basically from the corners of intersections with sidewalks. However it is generally legal to cross outside of a crosswalk (yielding to traffic).
Who said it wasn’t real? Did you not notice where I said the automatic right of way for pedestrians doesn’t exist, the commonly-held assumption that a pedestrian always has a right of way regardless of the pedestrian’s jaywalking doesn’t exist. Plus: see the last sentence in buddy431’s post above.
IIRC, in California the term for the appropriate place to be crossing at an intersection that doesn’t have a marked crosswalk is “implied crosswalk”.
NYC Traffic Rules
Lots of smaller intersections have unmarked crosswalks and it's even more common for one street ( the one with a stop sign) to have a marked crosswalk while the other does not.
Huh. I’ve learned something. I always assumed a crosswalk had to be delineated by some sort of visual marker.
In most states no one ever has the right of way; the law may require you to yield it. And it usually requires a driver to yield to a pedestrian even if the pedestrian is crossing illegally.
Right of way will not be relevant when a driver intentionally drives through a crowd. It doesn’t matter why the crowd is there or whether they have permission to do what they’re doing.
You said:
To recap:
You - In CA pedestrian right of way is malarky
Me - In GA, pedestrian right of way is codified
Not sure what you’re so upset about. My post in no way refuted anything you said.
Monty says automatic pedestrian right of way outside of a crosswalk is malarkey. You say pedestrian right of way in a crosswalk, marked or otherwise, is codified.
The malarky or lack thereof, is of course, irrelevant. A driver may not deliberately drive through pedestrians.
unless they are - in fact - zombies.
Mmh. It’s Vitality-Challenged People, if you don’t mind.
Hasn’t the zombie rights act been passed in CA?
That or MA are the most likely first state to do so.