As the occupying forces in Iraq managed to capture Sadam Hussein and manged to capture him alive, I think a congratulation is at its place.
This arrest certainly opens opportunities for increasing effort those stabilize the situation in Iraq, as those groups who are supportive of the former regime now have lost their icon and prob.
What I hope is that those occupyers now try to use the opportunity
Sorry… I’m using a weird keyboard with buttons at wrong places.
Please overlook the first post here that went on board unfinished.
As the occupying forces in Iraq managed to capture Sadam Hussein and even managed to capture him alive, I think a congratulation is at its place.
This arrest certainly opens opportunities for increasing efforts to stabilize the situation in Iraq, as those groups who are supportive of the former regime now have lost their leader and probably also most of their financing.
Yet there are a lot of other groups with a variety of goals and interests active in opposition to the occupying forces.
My critique and scepticism about the reason why Iraq had to be invaded so urgently - reasons that had nothing to do with “that bad guy threatening the USA” - remains untouched.
Nevertheless I think a page is turned and one could hope that the US government and the US and other foreign forces in Iraq have learned the lessons of their previous mistakes.
This arrest is of course a great propaganda boast for Bush and crew. Yet is creates at the same time a great opportunity for them inside Iraq.
We can always hope that the Iraqis aren’t going to be disappointed once again the their expectations.
So to the Bush supporters here: You have every reason to celebrate. I do hope of course that you wont have reason to celebrate after the next presidential elections in the USA 
Salaam. A
And the debate would be?
Probably whether or not to close this thread, as there are already a few others going.
Eh, it was bound to happen – personally I was surprised at not finding every thread in every forum dedicated to this subject.
If only Bush and the U.S. Army could travel back in time and capture Ho Chi Minh in 1963, they’d have a complete set.
Oh well, too much to hope for I guess…
Well… If you insist on having a debate, while I insist on expressing my personal appreciation towards a US government and US foreign policy I despise - on this very board where that same policy is frequently discussed and my position is cristal clear - because at this particular moment this US government deserve to be congratulated and thanked, the debate could be:
I’m sure you can find more of the kind.
Salaam. A
For the serious posters here, if looking for debating my OP:
Let’s debate the possibilities of the US having learned from their prvious (and almost uncountable) mistakes in Iraq and let’s debate how you see further developments in Iraq.
We can also debate how this is going to affect the chances for re- election of GW Bush seen the fact that this is a propaganda item that shall be used and exploited until the last drip and far beyond.
As for the remark: There are already other threads about this.
No, there are not other threads where I come forward with what I write in the OP and what others post doesn’t express what I post. Or do you think others speak for me?
As for the remark that there could be a debate about “wether or not to close this thread”.
I think that should be for the moderators to decide and I think if they close it, I shall get a mail to explain the decision.
Salaam. A
You see, A not every little thought that comes out of your mind needs to be posted in the Great Debates forum. And, oddly enough, your precise thoughts on it do not need to have their own particular thread, feel free to jump into one of the others. Finally, I know you truly enjoy the martyr role you like to play here, such as your penchant for thinking that some people spend time wondering how in the world we are going to attack Aldebaran now that he didn’t blindly attack the “USers”.
You remind me of those small-town midwest news shows that take whatever big event happened in the news and try to tie it to the local community. “Men land on the moon, Let’s see how Eastern Iowa reacts.” That kind of thing. Not every little thing needs your own personal thread, and if you really do need your own thread, perhaps IMHO will suit you better. However, I am no longer suprised by your egoism, so feel free to discount everything I say.
For the serious posters here, if looking for debating my OP:
Let’s debate the possibilities of the US having learned from their prvious (and almost uncountable) mistakes in Iraq and let’s debate how you see further developments in Iraq.
We can also debate how this is going to affect the chances for re- election of GW Bush seen the fact that this is a propaganda item that shall be used and exploited until the last drip and far beyond.
As for the remark: There are already other threads about this.
No, there are not other threads where I come forward with what I write in the OP and what others post doesn’t express what I post. Or do you think others speak for me?
As for the remark that there could be a debate about “wether or not to close this thread”.
I think that should be for the moderators to decide and I think if they close it, I shall get a mail to explain the decision.
Salaam. A **
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Hamlet,
You “discount” yourself everything you say by posting yourself what isn’t needed = your precise thoughts are not more “needed” then what you say about mine being “needed”.
I don’t know if you have the ability to see the joke of the clear hypocrisy of your comment, but I do.
Thank you for the smile.
For the rest, since you don’t understand a word from what I bring on with my OP, there is no need for me to comment further on your comment(s).
Have a nice day while posting here your “precise thoughts” that “aren’t needed” to be posted.
Salaam. A
I’m glad I got the chance to make your day. That means the world to me.
Once again, I’m not surprised by your inability to read, but what I actually said was: “your precise thoughts on it do not need to have their own particular thread.” Now, if you cannot fathom the difference between what I really said, and what you think I said… well, once again, I wouldn’t be in the least bit surprised.
Thanks, but I didn’t do anything.
Hamlet you clearly fail to understand what you read, so let’s make it a bit easier for you:
Since when are you a moderator of the SDMB and thus can make rulings about who’s “precise idea’s and thoughts” can be considered to “need” yes or no “their own particular thread” ?
If you aren’t a moderator, do you have the idea that threads made by other members including yourself don’t represent their particular “precise idea’s and thoughts” on the subjects they touch?
Or are you saying that you have some general concensus reached with all the members of SDMB on every single issue that is raised around here on the different boards?
Which of course results in all those threads and posts reflecting this concensus from which my “precise ideas and thoughts” aren’t part ?
If yes, can you make a thread explaining that broad concencus so that I can see what goes on here?
If not, what on earth are you talking about if not about the fact that you are out on displaying hypocrisy and selective reasoning?
Salaam. A
There were already two separate thread in Great Debates about the capture of Saddam Hussein when you posted your OP. I know that neither of them had your name up there, so they probably were of no interest to you, but why did you feel the need to start a new thread, one that did not ask for a debate.
What would have been hypocritical of me was if I posted a thread in Great Debates to respond to your thread, when I just as easily could have posted in this thread.
But hey, I’ve wasted enough time here, you go ahead and have your fun.
Aldebaran, I am a moderator.
Your thread celebrating the capture was in no way a debate of any kind, great or otherwise, and should have been posted in MPSIMS. If there is an issue on this topic that is already not being discussed in other Great Debate threads that you wish to debate, feel free to start a new thread in the appropriate forum.
Moving this to MPSIMS.
Moderator,
Since I don’t post in MPSIMS I doubt if I shall reach there the target audience.
Feel free to close the thread or to delete it. It has no point being where it is now. Thank you.
Salaam. A
Forgot to mention:
It is in no way “celebrating” anything.
It was made to express what I wrote. Nothing more.
Salaam. A
This thread is exactly where it should be. If you don’t wish to have threads in MPSIMS, don’t create threads that obviously belong there in the first place.
Sorry, forgot also to mention that if you find me expressing my personal appreciation for this action instigated by the US government “pointless”, it should be deleted and not moved to “pointless”.
Since to me this isn’t “pointless” and I take this move as a personal insult.
Salaam. A
So take it to the BBQ Pit.
Lockdown.